Don't know what to say to such a hateful post. I am just happy that there aren't many more like you on this board. Most have welcomed me.No, I'm just waiting on you getting banned from tidefans.com. Do you see the humor in this post?
Don't know what to say to such a hateful post. I am just happy that there aren't many more like you on this board. Most have welcomed me.No, I'm just waiting on you getting banned from tidefans.com. Do you see the humor in this post?
I agree completely - even if it means that my Buckeyes never win another championship. I do not put my team or conference above the sport.Here, I believe we all want the best to win out and not have a trophy awarded because of a desire to spread the wealth. That includes you, our friend in Ohio.
They want bias, and yes they should have stuck with a process that worked fairly well.Not possible -- every person qualified to sit on such a panel has allegiances and biases. That is actually the primary reason that I wish they had simply stuck with the BCS process for team selection.
Solid pointsThey want bias, and yes they should have stuck with a process that worked fairly well.
However, don't confuse two different things. When the United States sends a delegate to the UN, they are acting on behalf of the wishes of the United States administration. They are a political animal, with political objectives. If you simply sent someone from the United States as a representative, they would act in an entirely different fashion. The same applies here. When you let the Sun Belt send someone, you know they will have their marching orders. They are there because they are from the Sun Belt, they are there with a specific agenda which is to represent the interests of the Sun Belt, not the interests of college football. If for instance they don't argue for an undefeated Sun Belt team, they will almost certainly lose their job. If on the other hand it happened to be someone that had ties in the past to the Sun Belt, then it's entirely different. Now, while they might have some bias, they are free to act on behalf of college football, and not just the irrelevant conference.
I don't trust the SEC's representative either. I don't trust who Slive might want to represent the SEC. I'd trust someone like Finebaum more (I don't like him, and we all know where he graduated from), simply because he has some incentive to be objective. On the other hand, someone like Lou Holtz would be a disaster because we all know his ballot would be Notre Dame, South Carolina, and Arkansas every single year. The committee should have been chosen based on credibility, as objective observers and instead the qualifications are as subjective observers. To say we are choosing you because is to say we want bias in the process. Even the method for choosing members allows bias, this is all bad news.
They have to have some direction and different people will interpret it different ways. That is just how it works when you include human judgment. Conference championships do have some value.This isn't the worst part though:
"The selection committee will receive a "jury charge" from the commissioners. In ranking the teams, the committee will consider strength of schedule, where the games were played, conference championships and whether teams lost games because of injuries to key players."
I put him on the ignore list long ago.And you seem far fetched to me. I generally don't reply to you because it is difficult to do so without violating the profanity policy. Anyone with half a brain can see this is biased against the SEC.
You can't please everyone.I put him on the ignore list long ago.
I'm not sure what brought that little sarcastic (and non-responsive) blast, but anyone who doesn't think what motivated the change was not the SEC domination during the BCS era is either naive or disingenuous...Did Alabama fans think that the panel should consist of Alabama fans, coaches and administrators, giving the SEC automatic preference in the selection process? Anything short of that will seemingly not meet the requirements of some of your posters.
Hey, it's not their fault that Manti Te'o's girlfriend was injured for this game.How in the world can you say an injury CAUSED you to lose?
you just compared College Football to a GIRLS tball league to help make your point.... i think that says enoughDude....seriously. That looks like logic backed up with facts. It has no place in this discussion.
/rollingeyescarcasm
Seriously though....I couldn't agree more. FBS is the only major sport known to man with no legitimate way to determine its champion. Even my daughters TBall league that didn't keep score in games had a daggum tourney at the end.
I believe that Delany only agreed to entertain the 4 team playoff idea because of the SEC domination, but that doesn't mean that I agree that the system will be a disaster....anyone who doesn't think what motivated the change was not the SEC domination during the BCS era is either naive or disingenuous...
I partly agree with you. Delaney did agree to the playoff due to SEC domination, that was the only reason he did so. If he didnt think that building subjectivity into the committee wouldn't allow him a better chance at getting in, do you truly believe he would have supported that method, when most preferred a combination which included some form of the current ranking system (polls)???I believe that Delany only agreed to entertain the 4 team playoff idea because of the SEC domination, but that doesn't mean that I agree that the system will be a disaster.
TBH, whichever team lost.I'm going to miss the BCS. We have really benifited these past few years from the way the BCS selects who goes and who doesn't, also the controversy that BCS selectedwas awesome. Don't deny it wasn't. For the most part the BCS has gotten it right, as far as picking who the true best team is. Instead of putting a playoff in, I think a Plus one would have been a better scenario, who would not of loved to see Oregon-Bama!?
Not true. British Premier League for instance does not have a playoff system. However, it is a small enough league and long enough season that they play everybody twice. They have a point system for wins, ties, etc. and at the end of the season the team with the most points wins. Of course there other sports that don't have playoffs like track and field and swimming, but I know that you did not mean them. However, I am trying to point out that playoff system is not the only way to anoint a champion. Most think it is the best, but I disagree.Every sport, except FBS football, has some sort of playoff that includes more than 4 teams and most any team has a path to earn their way into it.
I've never felt that it necessarily had to be a disaster - just that that was the probability. The very reason that it was conceived has bias built into it from the outset. "Let's come up with a system which will crack the SEC hegemony" is hardly an auspicious start, particularly viewed from the standpoint of the SEC. BTW, have you considered using the smileys when attempting humor? Your post which irritated so many would have come across totally differently, if it had had a smiley at the end...I believe that Delany only agreed to entertain the 4 team playoff idea because of the SEC domination, but that doesn't mean that I agree that the system will be a disaster.
I disagree. I think the SEC is at a disadvantage as well as some of the other bigger conferences. This is the prime chance for the minor conferences to bring 'equality' and 'justice' to the unfair selection process.I don't see one or two people on the panel driving anything down the throats of the rest. Now, will there be back room dealing going on? Who knows. America can be pretty corrupt, and college football is not above that. But the idea that the SEC is now somehow in a worse position than it was before seems pretty far fetched to me.
While track, swimming, wrestling, etc. don't have playoffs in the sense that basketball and baseball do, they do have regional tournaments where people qualify for the national meet.Not true. British Premier League for instance does not have a playoff system. However, it is a small enough league and long enough season that they play everybody twice. They have a point system for wins, ties, etc. and at the end of the season the team with the most points wins. Of course there other sports that don't have playoffs like track and field and swimming, but I know that you did not mean them. However, I am trying to point out that playoff system is not the only way to anoint a champion. Most think it is the best, but I disagree.