he did coach there as an assistant at one point, If I recall. or i could be thinking about someone else.Well, it's official. Mark Richt has lost control of the University of Miami.
he did coach there as an assistant at one point, If I recall. or i could be thinking about someone else.Well, it's official. Mark Richt has lost control of the University of Miami.
It would be near criminal for the NCAA to levy major punishment from findings in an investigation where the NCAA president publicly admonished his investigators and fired his VP of Enforcement. It is darn near equivalent to courts convicting a man of a charge where the police department over the investigation was found to violate a multitude of laws in extracting evidence.
I know the NCAA is not the same as the courts but I feel the same spirit of honesty in the process applies. Many guilty men have went free because law enforcement broke trivial laws or simply went past the bounds of the warrant without knowing it.
as far as I am concerned the tainted evidence needs to go right into the garbage bin and they need to allow an outside group such as one of the big 4 (5/6?) accounting firms to do an independent review of the legally obtained evidence. If there is something there, fine. If not, let em walk.My understanding is that even without the additional evidence, the NCAA feels they have a very strong case. And as an outsider who's just been casually watching the allegations etc. for the past few years... I am leaning on the side of UM deserves whatever they get. The whole reason Emmert was furious about the mistakes on the NCAA's part is because the evidence is apparently quite *inappropriate word that means something along the lines of supreme guilt*. If they can make a reasonable case even without the tainted evidence, then they should ready the cannons and come down hard.
That was Florida St.he did coach there as an assistant at one point, If I recall. or i could be thinking about someone else.
Ah, thanks. Well he lost control of them too I'm sure.That was Florida St.
Mark Richt played at Miami. He coached at Florida State.he did coach there as an assistant at one point, If I recall. or i could be thinking about someone else.
And, god forbid, if we ever find ourselves in this position again, many of us would want our president to come out swinging. But since it's Miami, it's only blustering.Shalala is just posturing and hoping to generate some goodwill on the ground with her woe-is-us-the-victim spiel. It won't work, but given her history it comes as no surprise that she quickly resorted to hot air being spewed publicly. A skeptic would say that is apparently the only tool she has in the toolbox.
It may surprise you to learn that this is exactly the method that virtually all police departments follow, all except for the very best...Oh I agree. Was outraged for us then and am outraged for them now.
This case, just like ours, proves that the NCAA decides what you are guilty of and then works to find ways to back up their conclusions with evidence. If they can't find evidence they make it up, ignore their rules and move the goal posts. Nothing new here at all other than that they got caught. Investigations should start with evidence and then draw conclusions, theirs start with conclusions and fill in evidence.
I am no fan of Shalala but I am glad she is there. The media loves her. The shenanigans the NCAA pulls needs to be exposed. Because of Donna S it will be.
They never said they were going to back off. All they announced was that they were going to exclude some of the evidence gathered because it was gathered in cooperation with law enforcement agencies and that there had been improprieties in the way it was gone about. They had an internal investigation, fired some people involved and proceeded with the case. There was speculation that they would have to back off, but that didn't come from the NCAA...I'm not surprised. And it's not just the police - DA's have been known to do the same too, to keep their conviction % high. A massive flaw in our judicial system.
Can't blame the NCAA TOO much if we act like we're okay with the American Legal System doing the same thing.
Now, that said - I thought the NCAA had backed off of Miami? I haven't scoped the entire thread yet to see if that was addressed...
I appreciate your point however for me any way, no matter what happens to Miami, or any other school. Alabama was treated unfairly. Never before or since has a school had to go thru such a conspiracy lead by a rival.If Miami gets off with no punishment, then Alabama was treated unfairly and so was USCw. We should get ALL our victories back! Plus at least several $Billion$ from the NCAA for transgressions against UA!!!!!!!
If Miami gets off with no punishment, then anything should be legal and there should be no compliance policies for any University!!!!!!!
I agree, but the difference is that the NCAA doesnt follow the same standards that law enforcement agencies must. Their enforcement of violations defies the laws of logic, and while im no fan of the Miami Hurricanes, Im glad to see that the NCAA is being made to show their stuff by Ms. Shalala...It may surprise you to learn that this is exactly the method that virtually all police departments follow, all except for the very best...
doesn't surprise me at all, sadly.It may surprise you to learn that this is exactly the method that virtually all police departments follow, all except for the very best...