2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Updates

RedStar

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

You would expect the NCAA to keep a record of the historic and ongoing OM vs. Bama recruiting battles and to use that record as a blunt cheating indicator?
Maybe a bit too far, but the point shouldn't be lost.

We're used to seeing the name Ole Miss because they're in the SEC. They automatically feel a little bigger to us than they really are. But what they're currently doing would be akin to Reggie Bush signing with Arizona in the early 2000's instead of USC or Vince Young signing with Texas Tech instead of Texas. It doesn't enter the realm of reasonable possibility.

I went back and looked, neither Alabama, Georgia or LSU have won a head to head recruiting battle against Ole Miss under Freeze. The last major recruit Ole Miss lost out on when they went head to head with someone was Carl Lawson who chose Auburn in 2013.

At some point even reasonable people have to take a step back and ask questions.
 

Tideflyer

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

Maybe a bit too far, but the point shouldn't be lost.

We're used to seeing the name Ole Miss because they're in the SEC. They automatically feel a little bigger to us than they really are. But what they're currently doing would be akin to Reggie Bush signing with Arizona in the early 2000's instead of USC or Vince Young signing with Texas Tech instead of Texas. It doesn't enter the realm of reasonable possibility.

I went back and looked, neither Alabama, Georgia or LSU have won a head to head recruiting battle against Ole Miss under Freeze. The last major recruit Ole Miss lost out on when they went head to head with someone was Carl Lawson who chose Auburn in 2013.

At some point even reasonable people have to take a step back and ask questions.
Not sure the NCAA would qualify as "reasonable", but could this be happening ( See Football forum )?
 

Harmost

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Turn around and look up. That thing you see flying is the point that went way above your head.
I'm seeing the point pretty clearly. In fact, that same point seems like it's about all I see on this board these days.

That was my point... speaking of missed points.
 
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RTR91

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

Ole Miss fans believe Knott's commitment to Alabama is good news in regards to them getting Carter.
 

BAMAfan777

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I wouldn't take that one to the bank if I was a Rebel.....Bama only has one true Corner signed or committed, and historically they've had more than one every year.
 

tidefan23

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

Ole Miss fans believe Knott's commitment to Alabama is good news in regards to them getting Carter.
I hear the same. Knott's family apparently told Ole Miss that he would commit there if they would drop Carter.
 

sanjosecrimson

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

I hear the same. Knott's family apparently told Ole Miss that he would commit there if they would drop Carter.
I don't believe anything OM says , fans or staff alike. Knott was ready to commit 2x this past summer well before Carter de committed from Alabama. Which means his family was fully aware of Alabama taking more than one DB in this class. Technically Carter was recruited as a safety.
 

TiderJack

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

I don't believe anything OM says , fans or staff alike. Knott was ready to commit 2x this past summer well before Carter de committed from Alabama. Which means his family was fully aware of Alabama taking more than one DB in this class. Technically Carter was recruited as a safety.
We just got a CB from Sonny Shipp who is a LSWho recruiting insider about 30 mins ago and also got one 2 days ago from Shea Dixon who is also LSWho insider. I think this may be a pretty good indicator which way he may go.
 

Intl.Aperture

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

We just got a CB from Sonny Shipp who is a LSWho recruiting insider about 30 mins ago and also got one 2 days ago from Shea Dixon who is also LSWho insider. I think this may be a pretty good indicator which way he may go.
For those of us a little uneducated or who are new to the nitty gritty details of recruiting, what about these 2 particular CB's from Shipp and Dixon gives you a significant feeling of hope? Their area of operation? The HS's they are in dialogue with? Hope these questions don't induce eye rolling, I am literally a curious layman.
 

bamablood6

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

Personally I like Mayden at Corner....but what do I know?
 

sanjosecrimson

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

We just got a CB from Sonny Shipp who is a LSWho recruiting insider about 30 mins ago and also got one 2 days ago from Shea Dixon who is also LSWho insider. I think this may be a pretty good indicator which way he may go.
yup. I think most thought Carter would wind up at LSU due to family ties in the end. this is certainly good news for Bama.
otoh, all OM sites believe he is heading to Oxford. :wink:
 

TiderJack

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

For those of us a little uneducated or who are new to the nitty gritty details of recruiting, what about these 2 particular CB's from Shipp and Dixon gives you a significant feeling of hope? Their area of operation? The HS's they are in dialogue with? Hope these questions don't induce eye rolling, I am literally a curious layman.
Carter is from LA and has been heavily recruited by LSWho. These 2 guys are from LA and they have more insight with the coaches and contacts to where he is going since they are in his backyard. Obviously does not mean it is a done deal but a good indicator.
 

ptw1961

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Re: 2016 CB/ATH Shyheim Carter Decommits from Alabama

Where did you hear or see that? That's a little hard to believe.
I hear the same. Knott's family apparently told Ole Miss that he would commit there if they would drop Carter.
 

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