Faith in government to solve problems without causing bigger ones is some mighty strong religion.
As the old saying goes. Reality has a well-known liberal bias.Do you ever find it interesting that liberals have bought into climate change hook line and sinker, while conservatives overwhelmingly dismiss the entire thing as a hoax?
This is an absolutely terrific analogy. The rulers of the world then convinced most of the populace that the world was flat and intimidated any scientist who dared question this in great part to maintain control over the populace. The rulers of the world today have convinced many of the populace that there is global warming and have intimidated all scientists who dare to question this in great part to control the populace (and of course the monetary reasons). Again, great analogy. You are just not on the side you think you areVJ and other deniers, you may want one of these
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This is an absolutely terrific analogy. The rulers of the world then convinced most of the populace that the world was flat and intimidated any scientist who dared question this in great part to maintain control over the populace. The rulers of the world today have convinced many of the populace that there is global warming and have intimidated all scientists who dare to question this in great part to control the populace (and of course the monetary reasons). Again, great analogy. You are just not on the side you think you are
I just have to point out that the bolded above is one of the most bogus myths in history. For one, medieval people did not all believe the world was flat. For two, how would this help you control the world?This is an absolutely terrific analogy. The rulers of the world then convinced most of the populace that the world was flat and intimidated any scientist who dared question this in great part to maintain control over the populace. The rulers of the world today have convinced many of the populace that there is global warming and have intimidated all scientists who dare to question this in great part to control the populace (and of course the monetary reasons). Again, great analogy. You are just not on the side you think you are
I'd like to note for the record that I welcome our new insect overlords.That's like saying "the rulers of the world convinced most of the populace that insects spontaneously emerged from rotting food and persecuted anyone who dared to question it in order to maintain control over the populace".
I bolded the same portion for some odd reason. :biggrin2:I just have to point out that the bolded above is one of the most bogus myths in history. For one, medieval people did not all believe the world was flat. For two, how would this help you control the world?
That's like saying "the rulers of the world convinced most of the populace that insects spontaneously emerged from rotting food and persecuted anyone who dared to question it in order to maintain control over the populace".
I guess you're right. I won't believe it until I hear it from Brian Williams.Chris Booker, huh? Tells me all I needed to know.
I'm pretty conservative but I trust the scientific community much more than the government. Without either, I would suspect something just from the changes in weather where I live in my lifetime.Do you ever find it interesting that liberals have bought into climate change hook line and sinker, while conservatives overwhelmingly dismiss the entire thing as a hoax?
This is my issue. Before we force companies and our society to spend untold billions of dollars. How sure are we they're even going to work? Or is it just a guess?I guess you're right. I won't believe it until I hear it from Brian Williams.
In all seriousness, though, for this somewhat-conservative, it's not whether global warming/climate change is real vs hoax, but whether government is a solution or a power grab.
What is the proposed solution? What will it cost? How certain can we be that it would work? Committing economic suicide today to (maybe) prevent climate disasters 10, 20, 50, or 90 years down the line doesn't seem wise, IMO.
Al Gore recently said $90 Trillion should help eliminate greenhouse gases and cars. Does the planet even have $90 Trillion?This is my issue. Before we force companies and our society to spend untold billions of dollars. How sure are we they're even going to work? Or is it just a guess?
I guess that I'm really conservative! I don't trust either one.I'm pretty conservative but I trust the scientific community much more than the government. Without either, I would suspect something just from the changes in weather where I live in my lifetime.
I wouldn't know, don't really watch NBC Nightly News. The only news show I watch routinely is CBS Sunday Morning News.I guess you're right. I won't believe it until I hear it from Brian Williams.
In all seriousness, though, for this somewhat-conservative, it's not whether global warming/climate change is real vs hoax, but whether government is a solution or a power grab.
What is the proposed solution? What will it cost? How certain can we be that it would work? Committing economic suicide today to (maybe) prevent climate disasters 10, 20, 50, or 90 years down the line doesn't seem wise, IMO.
I also don't trust either. That said, the appearance of certain species in higher numbers around where I live makes me believe something is happening. There are just too many vested interests further vesting themselves. It is just as well known and proven that data has been doctored as it is that the climate changes.I guess that I'm really conservative! I don't trust either one.
Yes, I've also noticed that sometimes it's hot and sometimes it's cold and sometimes it's mild. Sometimes, it rains, sometimes it snows. I've seen hail as a child, as a teenager, as a middle aged person, and as an old man. It has always been that way in seven decades of my life. We had tornadoes when I was a child and we've had tornadoes while I've been an old man and some even in-between.
I guess that I just haven't noticed a difference. Let's see, is anyone profiting from the Global Warming controversy. Since the Ice Age, that ICE has been melting. It was doing so big time even prior to the Industrial Revolution.
Thwacka Thwacka ThwackaAl Gore recently said $90 Trillion should help eliminate greenhouse gases and cars. Does the planet even have $90 Trillion?
As for the scientific community as it relates to Climate Change, they are the government. So to continue their funding, of course they're going to perpetuate the fraud.
I don't trust the government at all. The scientists have less of an agenda. I have a B of S from Bama. I had a project on strip mine reclamation my senior year. It was the hot topic of the day and I found out first hand it strip mining was very bad environmentally. There are good doctors and bad and some are in it for the money only. A global conspiracy of global warming would be too easy to expose IMO.I guess that I'm really conservative! I don't trust either one.
Yes, I've also noticed that sometimes it's hot and sometimes it's cold and sometimes it's mild. Sometimes, it rains, sometimes it snows. I've seen hail as a child, as a teenager, as a middle aged person, and as an old man. It has always been that way in seven decades of my life. We had tornadoes when I was a child and we've had tornadoes while I've been an old man and some even in-between.
I guess that I just haven't noticed a difference. Let's see, is anyone profiting from the Global Warming controversy. Since the Ice Age, that ICE has been melting. It was doing so big time even prior to the Industrial Revolution.
This post reminds me of this:I don't trust the government at all. The scientists have less of an agenda. I have a B of S from Bama. I had a project on strip mine reclamation my senior year. It was the hot topic of the day and I found out first hand it strip mining was very bad environmentally. There are good doctors and bad and some are in it for the money only. A global conspiracy of global warming would be too easy to expose IMO.
When I was a child it snowed 2-3 times a year, 4-8 inches. Rarely does that happen any more. Southern Kentucky seems to now have the same weather that southern Tennessee used to have (not scientific at all).
Al Gore recently said $90 Trillion should help eliminate greenhouse gases and cars. Does the planet even have $90 Trillion?
As for the scientific community as it relates to Climate Change, they are the government. So to continue their funding, of course they're going to perpetuate the fraud.