The Saga of Ole Miss LT Laremy Tunsil

DzynKingRTR

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Dang..Doesn't look good for Ole Miss..I was reading through the comments of the article & this comment pretty much hit the nail on the head for sure..

"How does the smallest public college in the SEC, located in Backwater, Mississippi, manage to recruit the national #1 OL, #1 DL and #1 WR (all three from outside the state) in the same Top 5 recruiting class? Think about that!!!"..
seems a lot of Big10 schools comment on yahoo sports message boards.
 

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Dang..Doesn't look good for Ole Miss..I was reading through the comments of the article & this comment pretty much hit the nail on the head for sure..

"How does the smallest public college in the SEC, located in Backwater, Mississippi, manage to recruit the national #1 OL, #1 DL and #1 WR (all three from outside the state) in the same Top 5 recruiting class? Think about that!!!"..
Ole Miss is actually the 2nd smallest public in the SEC, ahead of Mississippi State, at least according to the SEC Wikipedia page. I also associate Starkville as being much more Backwater than Oxford, though Wiki also says Starkville has a higher population.
 

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The reason they can't let Barney go:

All the stories I've read lead one to believe Barney Farrar is a behind the scenes guy, a lifetime admin who is pretty good at what he does. The problem is that Barney learned well and from the best and he can connect this entire episode all the way back to the late 1980's when Ole Miss was on probation under Billy Brewer the first time.

http://articles.philly.com/1994-07-...ce-football-coaches-second-ncaa-investigation

Brewer had been at Ole Miss for 11 seasons when he was fired in summer1994, coaching from '83 thru '93. Ole Miss was placed on probation in 1986 while under Brewer's watch and again in 1994, also under Brewer's watch.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19941118&slug=1942647

Brewer's Offensive coordinator from 88 thru 91 was a former Arkansas high school prodigy named Red Parker. Parker coached the Fordyce Red Bugs from 1953 to 1960 before moving up to Arkansas A&M. From there he was the head coach at the Citadel from '66 thru '72. He was named the head coach at Clemson in early 1973 and stayed 4 years---between Hootie Ingram and Charlie Pell. He knocked around a few years until he hooked on at Delta State in Cleveland, MS, about 45 minutes from Oxford. While there he recruited Barney Farrar from Alcorn County, MS and NEMSCC and Farrar played two years and was a GA under Parker for three more years. His first real job away from home was as a GA under Danny Ford at Clemson. Parker, while never being named, was sure around a lot of dirt. Barney left Clemson to go to Rice with Ken Hatfield and was at Rice for a dozen years.

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/farrar_barney00.html

Barney then came to Ole Miss the first time in 2006 under Ed Orgeron, where he was placed in the same spot that had been held by David Saunders and Hugh Freeze. He got the chance to go back to on field coaching at Southern MS between 2008 and 2011 and came back to Ole Miss in December of 2011.

http://olehottytoddy.com/2016/03/17/ole-miss-barney-farrar-is-living-a-dream-in-oxford/

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/farrar_barney00.html

The Link is that Red Parker was on Brewer's staff in the early 90's that got Brewer fired. He left prior to the heat in '93 but the rumor mill up here was that Parker was in about waist deep. Ole Miss went on probation with some of the harshest penalties this side of SMU; 24 scholarships over 2 years, 1 year TV ban and two year bowl ban with a 4 year window beginning in November 1994 and the entire coaching staff forced out. Barney is a direct link back to Red Parker.
 

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New stuff from Sports Illustrated's legal expert.

Upshot: Is this goes to trial, Freeze could be forced to testify and there's very little chance a judge would agree to keep what Freeze says out of public view. Of course, Tunsil could end the suspense by settlign with his stepdad -- and keeping Hugh out of the witness chair.
 

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Tunsil could end the suspense by settling with his stepdad -- and keeping Hugh out of the witness chair.
And if this happens we'll never know who agreed to the settlement----kinda like we know nothing else about this suit:

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2011/08/18/former-coachstaffer-plans-to-sue-ole-miss/

The rumor mill up here says Ole Miss and Saunders still hate each other. Note the story is dated August, 2011. There has not been another story or another question about it since other than a mention under the ULL story.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...stions-saunders-ole-miss-activities/73848474/

If this one goes away I would hope writers will at least try to find out what happened and who paid who. Smart money still says Miller 'bout to get paid.
 
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He will definitely get paid. Now who writes the check is another question. Will it be Tunsil or an Ole Miss booster? Same as the way the HBO 4 at the barn worked it.


And if this happens we'll never know who agreed to the settlement----kinda like we know nothing else about this suit:

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2011/08/18/former-coachstaffer-plans-to-sue-ole-miss/

The rumor mill up here says Ole Miss and Saunders still hate each other. Note the story is dated August, 2011. There has not been another story or another question about it since other than a mention under the ULL story.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...stions-saunders-ole-miss-activities/73848474/

If this one goes away I would hope writers will at least try to find out what happened and who paid who. Smart money still says Miller 'bout to get paid.
 

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He will definitely get paid. Now who writes the check is another question. Will it be Tunsil or an Ole Miss booster? Same as the way the HBO 4 at the barn worked it.
That is the story with Saunders's suit against Ole Miss. They paid him and demanded confidentiality as part of the settlement. The problem they all have is that the ULL suit vs. ACT will be cause for the gag order to be lifted. ACT is not going to pay. They are going to blame it all on Saunders and the lady in Wayne County---who will, in turn tell how Ole Miss has been using this honey hole since about 1995. Unless the Ole Miss boosters want to pony up for ACT's payoff to ULL we have the makings of a long term nightmare for our friends in Oxford.
 

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That is the story with Saunders's suit against Ole Miss. They paid him and demanded confidentiality as part of the settlement. The problem they all have is that the ULL suit vs. ACT will be cause for the gag order to be lifted. ACT is not going to pay. They are going to blame it all on Saunders and the lady in Wayne County---who will, in turn tell how Ole Miss has been using this honey hole since about 1995. Unless the Ole Miss boosters want to pony up for ACT's payoff to ULL we have the makings of a long term nightmare for our friends in Oxford.
I guess I must have missed something along the way. I haven't the slightest idea what you are saying are talking about.
 

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David Saunders, Auburn grad, walk-on under Pat Dye, and former coach at Ole Miss under David Cutcliff and Ed Orgeron, filed notice of suit against Ole Miss in 2011. Nothing has been heard from it since. Speculation is he was paid to shut up, down home cuz style.

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2011/08/18/former-coachstaffer-plans-to-sue-ole-miss/

Saunders then went to work for ULL and used connections he made while at Ole Miss for ACT fraud to gain eligibility for several recruits while coaching there. Ull was placed on probation in January with all violations attributable to David Saunders.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/sp...ncaa-releases-ruling-ull-violations/78687430/

In their response to the NCAA, ULL stated that if they had known of the previous activity by Saunders while he was at Ole Miss they would have never hired him. In a round about way they said Ole Miss should have known, stopped it from happening, and notified ACT----but they didn't. They also stated that ACT failed by supplying passing scores for prospective students that should not have met the requirements for admission at ULL and filed a suit against ACT which will require Saunders and the connection at Wayne County High School, who was proctor for the ACT testing done there, to testify.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...sues-act-over-falsified-test-scores/78691766/

When it comes time for that trial, ACT is going to blame Jinney Crager at Wayne County and David Saunders, as a representative of the University of Mississippi for the fraud. Saunders will attempt to prove that test score manipulation had been going between Wayne County and Ole Miss long before he got to Ole Miss.
 
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I put it here because he can was arguing about it in regards to tunsil on northsidebaseball but an ole miss fan is now pretty much accusing Bama of giving Henry what appears to be a car (Charger?) while at Bama. And he claims Bama's car loaning programs is legarndary. Best part of this delusional ole miss fan is that he thinks cowherd defends Bama. Ole miss gets caught and now their fans wants to bring everybody down with them.
 

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I put it here because he can was arguing about it in regards to tunsil on northsidebaseball but an ole miss fan is now pretty much accusing Bama of giving Henry what appears to be a car (Charger?) while at Bama. And he claims Bama's car loaning programs is legarndary. Best part of this delusional ole miss fan is that he thinks cowherd defends Bama. Ole miss gets caught and now their fans wants to bring everybody down with them.
That's old news. Derrick posted a picture of a charger a few years ago, which led to the speculation.

Ole Miss fans should just be upset they got caught because they were so stupid to be so blatant in their cheating.


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