NCAA to formally charge Ole Miss with rules violations (Freeze has resigned)

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selmaborntidefan

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I don't want to turn this into a religious thread but...if Freeze is the guy he's portrayed himself as he needs to:
a) come completely clean
b) tell the WHOLE truth, not use confession to stop the inquiries
c) concede publicly how what he's done is inconsistent with his message


"I lied, I cheated, I stole, I did it because I just wanted to win so badly" is a far cry from "Mistakes were made" and the always irritating use of the passive voice. His 'repentance' is more along the lines of a leader giving a petulant speech about how leaders, too, have private lives and "this investigation has gone on longer than it should have."

Rather than letting us guess, come right out and say what you did. Of course, the problem is that now there's a lawsuit, and this is what makes me suspicious. Freeze was continuing the strategy of deny, delay, deflect right up until the point the phone call info got released and he was caught red-handed. Now, the argument will be he can't do that because he'll lose the court case/they'll hold him accountable for it, something.

For those who don't know the story - when the Jimmy Swaggart exposure happened in 1988, he literally knew about it for FOUR months. It didn't suddenly blow up on a Thursday afternoon with a bombshell - Swaggart knew he'd been caught in October and decided that the man who was blackmailing him didn't have the stones to actually go to the Assemblies of God with the evidence. That's why I always considered his tearful confession little more than drama queen damage control rather than sincere sorrow; if he'd been sorry, he would have confessed back in October and not only when the board found out.

I'll drop that part now since it could deviate from the intent of the thread.

Freeze needs to actually come clean if he wants to be taken sincerely. "Yes, I knew boosters had paid Player X, but I didn't care, I wanted to win so badly."
 

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Saw this on Twitter and found it quite funny- "Ole Miss has Bama's arrogance with Vandy's trophy case."

LOL. Ouch!


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I won't say much on this to avoid thread creep but I know my fair share about Briarwood. The major drug bust two years ago and the campus cop are issues far more complicated than most people acknowledge.

Again - won't say anymore than this - but let's not get hung up on this issue. Lot of intense feelings in both directions.


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I went to college (not Bama) with a guy from Briarwood. He was a major jerk (that is the only Tide Fans approved word to describe him) and very racist.


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My wife and I left Thursday morning for the Mississippi Gulf Coast and came home Saturday evening. I did not listen to the radio or watch any TV for the entire time. But I did walk past a newspaper box (remember those) and did a double take. Freeze Resigns. I stepped back and bought the paper (Gulf Daily or something) and sure enough it was true. I was grinning from ear to ear while walking back to the car. I still am. What a crock from all those involved. It sure is funny how soon they threw the HC under the bus. I suppose they think this will help their case.

Well, I have about 31 pages to read.
 

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Plaintiff Rebel Rags attempts to paint a picture of collusion among the NCAA, members of the Mississippi State athletics department, a national media member and a reporter for an Ole Miss rival fan-site



Apparently, the word "collusion" is an acceptable euphemism that avoids the scrutiny of "it's a conspiracy!"

Johnnie Cochran knew this, which is why he always said the cops PLANTED the glove but for the most part avoided saying, "The cops FRAMED OJ."

For some reason, synonyms buy you constituents.
 

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Plaintiff Rebel Rags attempts to paint a picture of collusion among the NCAA, members of the Mississippi State athletics department, a national media member and a reporter for an Ole Miss rival fan-site



Apparently, the word "collusion" is an acceptable euphemism that avoids the scrutiny of "it's a conspiracy!"

Johnnie Cochran knew this, which is why he always said the cops PLANTED the glove but for the most part avoided saying, "The cops FRAMED OJ."

For some reason, synonyms buy you constituents.
If anyone should know what is going on in the Ole Miss Investigation it would not be NCAA, SEC or Ole Miss investigators. It would not be former coaches or players or recruits. No, it would be a T-shirt store. I will buy that.
 
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Re: Yahoo Sources: NCAA to formally charge Mississippi with rules violations

Here's an article from Wolken back in October 2015 as the faucet started to drip quicker


On Feb. 6, 2013, the Ole Miss coaching staff went into its recruiting war room anticipating a day that would forever change the trajectory of the Rebels’ historically mediocre program. No longer satisfied with being a bridesmaid in the SEC West, Hugh Freeze had come into Oxford preachin’ and recruitin’, preachin’ and recruitin’, and the results were about to show in a major way.

As the hours went by, almost every pulse of the fax machine was worthy of celebration. Letters of Intent came in that day from four prospects rated as five-stars, only one of which came from Mississippi.

The idea that Ole Miss could pull a Robert Nkemdiche out of the Atlanta suburbs or get Laremy Tunsil to back out of his commitment to Georgia or land Laquon Treadwell from Chicago of all places was always viewed as bizarre.....



And he has a fan base that now realizes, once and for all, that Ole Miss probably is always going to be Ole Miss, and that Freeze’s weaknesses as a coach are not going away.
 

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Re: Yahoo Sources: NCAA to formally charge Mississippi with rules violations

If it's too good to be true; it probably is. No better example.
 

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I apologize if someone already said this.. but what if the calls to the escort service were for recruiting? Its not out of the realm of possibilty for a coach to hire escorts to take care of recruits on visits.
It has been mentioned and according to some, a very distinct possibility. IMO the dam is still failing and there is a lot more catastrophe to come for UM.
 

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It has been mentioned and according to some, a very distinct possibility. IMO the dam is still failing and there is a lot more catastrophe to come for UM.
I don't know about whether the working girls were for recruits. Wouldn't surprise me, though.

But you're right on the dam just starting to fail. I've got a feeling this Briarcrest stuff could end up being reminiscent of Bill Cosby's current civil and criminal legal troubles.
 

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Vegas releases some curious names for the Ole Miss job.

http://alabama.247sports.com/Galler...Football-coach-105336789/GallerySlides/607133


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Here's the list since one has to go through page after page:

Bobby Petrino - don't make me laugh

Matt Luke - interim, could happen

Neal Brown (Troy) - he might actually be one of the few willing to take it

Charlie Strong - better chance of Freeze coming back than this one

Mike McIntyre - because every coach who just won a Pac 12 division title wants to leave picturesque Boulder for the sticks of Mississippi

Scott Frost - no, he's waiting to head back to Lincoln

Chip Kelly - pick Oxford over the jobs gonna be open in December? LOL!!!

Brent Venables - can only see this if he actually wants a head coaching job

Mike Norvell - I could actually see this possibly happening, particularly if he can stay in the same house he lives in now; he's from Central Arkansas so it's close enough to home if that's what he wants, and he may not get another look otherwise

Les Miles - please do not make me laugh. I can only see this if Les wants to gain some vengeance on LSU (and he's never struck me as that type) or owes so much money to folks he has no choice

Blake Anderson - if he gets the job, he's the only one they could get; there's too much Freeze similarity here for the folks with long memories down there

Derek Dooley - he couldn't win with a better situation in Knoxville so, of course, this might actually happen.

Chad Morris - supposedly the favorite right now, a primarily high school background with some OC thrown in at Clemson and currently at SMU.



I think it all depends on how hard the NCAA hammer hits. Of course, my question is....how is it possible that Derek Dooley is on this list but Gene Chizik is NOT? Chizik did win a national title, Dooley never even won his division.

Maybe they should just go get Mack Brown.....
 
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