I wonder how many Americans think the Electoral College is a post-secondary school?
No blue font, sadly.
No blue font, sadly.
you are probably right, it just would have been started by Trump supporters.Wrong!
Bull crap. No one challenged it before the election when the possibility was more likely to happen the other way.Wrong!
Yeah, but they weren't the states everyone expected to be pivotal. Heck, I thought Trump was crazy going to PA, MI, and WI and truth be told you did too.The map looked slightly different this year, but you know that a handful of swing states get the focus every election year while others are entirely ignored.
While I've mentioned it multiple times since the election as an option for the disgruntled Dems, I'm not a proponent of the proportional allocation of electors or any other scheme in which the winner takes less than all of the electors.Don't ya'll remember the RNC talking about proportional electoral votes after Obama won for the second time? A few states do that now.
Always remember one man's BS is another man's fertilizer!
Wrong. I am the thread starter so I know why it was started. I posted here a few times during the campaign that I hoped Trump won the popular vote and Clinton won the EC so that the dems and reps maybe could now work together to eliminate it.Bull crap. No one challenged it before the election when the possibility was more likely to happen the other way.
I already said I posted here a couple of times about it before the election. Even mentioned that I did a report on it (Tilden/Hayes) in HS before many here were even born. So, yes, its the truth.Bamaro,
there is really no way of knowing if you are telling the truth or not. We just have to take your word for it, unless in 4 years we get the opposite and President Trump (really hard to type that) wins the popular vote but loses the EC to whatever idiot the democrats run against him. If you state your displeasure then and only then will I believe you. My guess is you will tell all the Trump supporters to shut-up and "we won".
Key word "after".Don't ya'll remember the RNC talking about proportional electoral votes after Obama won for the second time? A few states do that now.
Always remember one man's BS is another man's fertilizer!
Tilden/Hayes had more to do with Democrats agreeing to "lose" states they won in exchange for ending military occupation of Louisiana and South Carolina. The Tilden/Hayes corrupt bargain was more about thwarting the EC than the perceived flaws in the EC.I already said I posted here a couple of times about it before the election. Even mentioned that I did a report on it (Tilden/Hayes) in HS before many here were even born. So, yes, its the truth.
but he wrote a paper this one time before most of us were born so that makes him an expert apparentlyTilden/Hayes had more to do with Democrats agreeing to "lose" states they won in exchange for ending military occupation of Louisiana and South Carolina. The Tilden/Hayes corrupt bargain was more about thwarting the EC than the perceived flaws in the EC.
I suspect I was born before him.but he wrote a paper this one time before most of us were born so that makes him an expert apparently
No but at least I didn't question your truthfulness like you did mine. You seem to have a comprehension problem. I made that statement to show that my opinion wasn't something new or based on recent results.but he wrote a paper this one time before most of us were born so that makes him an expert apparently
Not only do I remember that, but I remember them stealing that particular idea from (wait for it) the Democrats, who proffered it in 2004.Don't ya'll remember the RNC talking about proportional electoral votes after Obama won for the second time? A few states do that now.
I guess I'm not a partisan. I like the EC regardless of the outcome. But maybe I'm just informed.Not only do I remember that, but I remember them stealing that particular idea from (wait for it) the Democrats, who proffered it in 2004.
I remember Hillary Clinton calling for the abolition of the EC in 2000.
I remember Donald Trump calling the EC a disaster as recently as four years ago.
I even remember reading this story from a few days before the 2000 debacle where a Bush aide came right out and said they'd challenge if he lost the Electoral College.
Let's face it, folks - they're politicians and hypocrisy is their lifeblood. And it isn't 'just' the left or the right or the Republicans or the Democrats. I've long chuckled since the recount went Bush's way with the familiar Democratic whine that Republicans are real big on state sovereignty and yet they went to federal court over it. But so what? Democrats are really big on FEDERAL court, so isn't it just as hypocritical for them to try and insist all of a sudden that their ridiculous recount proposal ("hey, we're only going to count in four large Democratic majority counties") has to be handled at the state level - since it's allegedly a 'federal election?'
The fact is that if Trump had lost and HRC had won the same way, the partisans in this debacle would be arguing just the opposite.
For the record, we're always going to have the EC unless some activist liberal court suddenly decides it's unconstitutional.