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    Re: The policy and politics of Trumpism

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    as I and others have been saying for quite a while, you want to find the real snowflakes look to the Right. Mona Charen is walked out of CPAC for daring to call out Republicans on sexual assault. Poor little babies couldn't believe it so they had security remove her

    good for her

    and at the same conference gave Devin Nunes a medal for what amounts to obstructing justice or as they think of it "defending freedom"
    they are just good christians embracing the gift that god has sent them in trump.
    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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    Re: The policy and politics of Trumpism

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Stole this from Reddit.

    Cliff Notes:
    Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.
    The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.
    They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.
    Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.
    They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.
    Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.
    A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.
    It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe, edit I previously thought Person 1 was Steele, this is the person coordinating with Steele. Steele is Source #1.
    DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.
    The attacks on Bruce Ohr for knowing Steele/and his wife working for Fusion GPS are 100% baseless. He was not involved in the FISA process and disclosed his relationships in November 2016.
    Basically Nunes and Gowdy lied whole cloth that the FISA warrant was primarily based on a news article and the Steele Dossier. Those were in fact the least used and most minor pieces of evidence and they picked them out specifically for that reason to discredit the investigation and lied about their use.

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    Re: The policy and politics of Trumpism


    We know Page for a fact, plus Flynn and Papa. I'd suspect this is Gates and Manafort

    the FBI had 5 former Trump officials under investigation in September of 3026

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