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here is another good example of how we should treat each other.

bilbo bigot said:
Attorney General Jeff Sessions preached the administration’s message on merit-based immigration on Fox News Tuesday night, claiming “a good nation” doesn’t admit “illiterate” immigrants.


“What good does it do to bring in somebody who is illiterate in their own country, has no skills and is going to struggle in our country and not be successful? That is not what a good nation should do, and we need to get away from it,” Sessions said, speaking on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”
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For the record....I don't fully support anyone.

There are things that Trump does that drive me batty.

What I like about his being president the most is he's not a career politician.

And as such....he's not very "polished".

If you are upset he got elected.....you can point your finger at our political system. And the media. Both of which have been royally screwing America for decades now.

I don't post in the thread too much because it's basically pointless. IMHO, no one is ever gong to change their mind about anything they read here.

If anything is to be gleaned.....it's about how we treat each other while agreeing and disagreeing on topics and news events.

That said, I do appreciate reading everyone's views and respect there are many other opinions than just mine.

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Honestly I assume most the Trump supporters don't post because the facts don't line up with their opinions, only their feelings. It seems more like they all just gave up on the attempt because it was pointless because he's such a raging buffoon that they have to pretzel twist their brains to keep agreeing with him.

I used to agree that no one would ever change their mind but it's not true. It might take years to happen but many of our views here have changed a good bit (see the thread about African Americans views on the Confederate flags as one example)
 
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so apparently Stormy Daniels was interviewed by In Touch magazine back in 2011 before she signed an NDA. She dished a tell all on their affair with detail....Eww. It is expected to hit newsstands later this week

I do not want this level of detail

oh yeah. also Fox News had this story fully fleshed out and confirmed the month before the election but Murdoch and Co killed it because they are Fair and Balanced
 
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so apparently Stormy Daniels was interviewed by In Touch magazine back in 2011 before she signed an NDA. She dished a tell all on their affair with detail....Eww. It is expected to hit newsstands later this week

I do not want this level of detail

oh yeah. also Fox News had this story fully fleshed out and confirmed the month before the election but Murdoch and Co killed it because they are Fair and Balanced
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the lord uses fallen men to lead his chosen people to glory.

or something like that.
 
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Sorry for the long post, but this is very interesting reporting.

Investigators Are Scrutinizing Newly Uncovered Payments By The Russian Embassy

Officials investigating the Kremlin’s interference in the 2016 US presidential election are scrutinizing newly uncovered financial transactions between the Russian government and people or businesses inside the United States.

Records exclusively reviewed by BuzzFeed News also show years of Russian financial activity within the US that bankers and federal law enforcement officials deemed suspicious, raising concerns about how the Kremlin’s diplomats operated here long before the 2016 election.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team, charged with investigating Russian election interference and possible collusion by the Trump campaign, is examining these transactions and others by Russian diplomatic personnel, according to a US official with knowledge of the inquiry.

The transactions reveal:

  • One of the people at the center of the investigation, the former Russian ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak, received $120,000 ten days after the election of Donald Trump. Bankers flagged it to the US government as suspicious in part because the transaction, marked payroll, didn’t fit prior pay patterns.
  • Five days after Trump’s inauguration, someone attempted to withdraw $150,000 cash from the embassy’s account — but the embassy’s bank blocked it. Bank employees reported the attempted transaction to the US government because it was abnormal activity for that account.
  • From March 8 to April 7, 2014, bankers flagged nearly 30 checks for a total of about $370,000 to embassy employees, who cashed the checks as soon as they received them, making it virtually impossible to trace where the money went. Bank officials noted that the employees had not received similar payments in the past, and that the transactions surrounded the date of a critical referendum on whether parts of Crimea should secede from Ukraine and join Russia — one of Vladimir Putin’s top foreign policy concerns and a flash point with the West.
  • Over five years, the Russian Cultural Centre — an arm of the government that sponsors classes and performances and is based in Washington, DC — sent $325,000 in checks that banking officials flagged as suspicious. The amounts were not consistent with normal payroll checks and some of the transactions fell below the $10,000 threshold that triggers a notice to the US government.
  • The Russian Embassy in Washington, DC, sent more than $2.4 million to small home-improvement companies controlled by a Russian immigrant living not far from there. Between 2013 and March 2017, that contractor’s various companies received about 600 such payments, earmarked for construction jobs at Russian diplomatic compounds. Bankers told the Treasury they did not think those transactions were related to the election but red-flagged them because the businesses seemed too small to have carried out major work on the embassy and because the money was cashed quickly or wired to other accounts.
Each of these transactions sparked a “suspicious activity report” sent to the US Treasury’s financial crimes unit by Citibank, which handles accounts of the Russian Embassy.
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Odd request from the Senate Intelligence Committee: Give us these records before Mueller sees them.

The senators made it clear they wanted the Treasury to turn over whatever records it might have to the committee before handing them over to special counsel Mueller.

“It is our expectation that these documents will be provided directly to the Committee, without pre-review by any outside entities, including the Office of Special Counsel,” said the letters, marked “committee sensitive,” meaning they are not intended to be made public. “Treasury is free to provide a copy of any documents provided to the Committee to the Office of Special Counsel for review in parallel to production to the Committee, but these documents should not be provided to the Office of Special Counsel prior to receipt by the Committee.”
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92tide said:
the lord uses fallen men to lead his chosen people to glory.

or something like that.
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The bizarre part is how true that can be 180 degrees removed from what some folks think......

Maybe Jessica Hahn was a whatever or Debra Murphree was, in fact, a prostitute. Maybe God didn't want people listening to Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart.
 
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Jon said:
so apparently Stormy Daniels was interviewed by In Touch magazine back in 2011 before she signed an NDA. She dished a tell all on their affair with detail....Eww. It is expected to hit newsstands later this week

I do not want this level of detail

oh yeah. also Fox News had this story fully fleshed out and confirmed the month before the election but Murdoch and Co killed it because they are Fair and Balanced
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So is In Touch Fair and Balanced as well? Why have they sat on the story for so long?
 
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This interpretation of Bannon's double subpoena makes the most sense. He's now agreed to testify voluntarily with Mueller "soon," and it doesn't look like he'll be coming back to the House Intelligence Committee. Nunes' attempt to figure out what Bannon knows in order to inform the WH will likely be unsuccessful.

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FBI agents visited Steve Bannon’s home last week to discuss subpoena in Russia probe

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wasn't the same story in 2011 as it was in 2016, not even close. Not sure why they killed it then
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According to what I'm seeing in a few spots, they didn't have enough confirmation to feel comfortable running it.

And while it's true it was obviously a much bigger story on a guy running for President as opposed to TV clown - if they had it in 2011, how in the world could they not confirm this by, say, the primaries? Let's not pretend the front-runner doing this would not be a big deal given what happened to Gary Hart. Or for that matter, Bill Clinton in 1992. (This actually is closer to Clinton in terms of similarity since the allegations are "old" and Trump isn't accused of the liaison during the campaign as Hart was).
 
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92tide said:
the people that are responsible for trump being president are the folks that voted for him, full stop.
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Those who voted for him are not the ones who are upset.

This is what I posted:

If you are upset he got elected.....you can point your finger at our political system. And the media. Both of which have been royally screwing America for decades now.



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what exactly are you gleaning from this wrt how people should be treated? seems like they are pretty much focused on treating people like crap, especially folks with brown skin. and they don't really try to hide it or sugar coat it. but hey, he's sticking to the system, amirite?
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Wasn't talking about anyone outside our forum. Here's what I posted:

If anything is to be gleaned.....it's about how we treat each other while agreeing and disagreeing on topics and news events.

That said, I do appreciate reading everyone's views and respect there are many other opinions than just mine.
 
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MattinBama said:
Honestly I assume most the Trump supporters don't post because the facts don't line up with their opinions, only their feelings. It seems more like they all just gave up on the attempt because it was pointless because he's such a raging buffoon that they have to pretzel twist their brains to keep agreeing with him.
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I can't speak for others here but I would rather budget the time I do have to post on a forum in other areas that I care for more....like cars, pets, music, photos, or sports. I only have so much time to spend on forums and politics is not that high a priority. There's only a few regulars here anyway so there must be others who feel the same.


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I used to agree that no one would ever change their mind but it's not true. It might take years to happen but many of our views here have changed a good bit (see the thread about African Americans views on the Confederate flags as one example)
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I was talking specifically about the Trump thread. I don't see anyone's opinions being changed in this thread. :wink:
 
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Bazza said:
Those who voted for him are not the ones who are upset.
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That's not true either. He's a PR nightmare and borderline psychotic. Knowing he has his finger on the button terrifies me after some of things he's said and done his first year in office. He should be working quietly to defuse the NK situation instead of publically exacerbating it.
 
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FBI investigating whether Russia funneled cash to NRA to aid Trump's campaign

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.
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