This was shared by my Facebook buddy today. I guess he is off the Trump train, since most (if not all) of these apply to the dear leader.
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The policy and politics of Trumpism
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This was shared by my Facebook buddy today. I guess he is off the Trump train, since most (if not all) of these apply to the dear leader.
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i wouldn't be so sure, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug to that crowd
This was shared by my Facebook buddy today. I guess he is off the Trump train, since most (if not all) of these apply to the dear leader.
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He is also a barner.i wouldn't be so sure, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug to that crowd
If I hadn’t been on my phone, I would have used blue in my post.
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The first one is THE SPECTRE OF COMMUNISM
This was shared by my Facebook buddy today. I guess he is off the Trump train, since most (if not all) of these apply to the dear leader.
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It's easy to be apolitical these days, or at least centrist. Years ago if I wanted to be right wing I had to live with the change of birthers, Obama the secret terrorist muslim, etc.
Now if I want to be left wing I have to deal with "feelings over facts," reparations for something my ancestors may not have been in the country during, and if you disagree, you're a rapist Nazi etc.
"His tax returns" reminds me a lot of "his birth certificate." Both embarrassing for each party in my opinion.
I understand these are the extremes of both parties, but the extremist are the ones getting all the ink and all the air time (sensationalism calls.) Unfortunately it's pushing the line of the democrats further and further left. And while there are good "socialist programs", I'm anti-socialism (as per the Merriam Webster dictionary definition). And the line to the right, if it requires my skin color and religion to apply, can also burn to the ground.
The two party system will destroy the Republic because it eventually creates "us vs them". It got heavy at the end of the Bush era, ramped up during Obama years, and has now exploded with Trump.
And say what you want, I consider myself centrist and the Democratic party has done NOTHING to try and win my vote (not that Trump had it the last election or necessarily the next one).
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Now if I want to be left wing I have to deal with "feelings over facts," reparations for something my ancestors may not have been in the country during, and if you disagree, you're a rapist Nazi etc.
"His tax returns" reminds me a lot of "his birth certificate." Both embarrassing for each party in my opinion.
I understand these are the extremes of both parties, but the extremist are the ones getting all the ink and all the air time (sensationalism calls.) Unfortunately it's pushing the line of the democrats further and further left. And while there are good "socialist programs", I'm anti-socialism (as per the Merriam Webster dictionary definition). And the line to the right, if it requires my skin color and religion to apply, can also burn to the ground.
The two party system will destroy the Republic because it eventually creates "us vs them". It got heavy at the end of the Bush era, ramped up during Obama years, and has now exploded with Trump.
And say what you want, I consider myself centrist and the Democratic party has done NOTHING to try and win my vote (not that Trump had it the last election or necessarily the next one).
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Come back from the far left ledge, PLEASE fix the immigration system, or if you can't pass something, put forth a legitimate plan. A good plan will be seen for what it is and if the right wants to fight it for the sake of fighting it, they'll lose their support and their seats.
We are NOT an open border society/country. Get off the identity politics. I remember when it was the best person for the job, not the best person of they also had female genitalia. I will go with what I've always gone with, and that's the best idea, not because it came out of the mouth of someone who looked like me. The Democratic party isn't giving enough credit to the people in the center to see things the same.
I've got Democratic presidential candidates talking reparations.....nope. Done.
I've got Democratic presidential candidates talking socialism.....not socialistic programs. SOCIALISM. No. Done.
I've got protest across the country after the election before anything was put in place with groups like antifa, tearing things down, attacking people, etc and political figures encouraging it. And yes, I noticed the trash in Charlottesville, the rights not guilt free.
I've got politicians that want to quell speech. Even if it's hate speech, you should be allowed to say it. Sorry, your feelings don't override that filths right to be a waste of human trash. Why? Because when power changes, so do definitions. Those in power for a term shouldn't have the right to decide what the latest, greatest rules are regarding language. Want to change it, amend the constitution. Pure and simple.
The gun thing....I'm very pro second amendment but if you want to run 30 investigations on me, fine. I'm still getting my gun cause in not crazy and I'm not killing anyone. You want to do away with guns.....No. Sorry. You lost me again.
Come up with a solid plan to combat say, , maybe 4 of these things and drop identity politics and you'll probably get me in your court, with many many many others.
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I think I understand your position(s)??, but at this point it is about running trump and his crowd out of Washington. Issues matter, but no issue is more important than sending trump back to NYC and letting the Dept of Justice SDNY have their way with him.
No one is advocating for open borders.
Honestly, this gets charged so often that I'm not entirely sure what it even is anymore. And it seems like the current GOP is pretty aligned with Evangelist and white nationalist identity politics, so this finger is probably pointed at both parties.
Well, no one is advocating for perferential treatment/reward of females. But when a woman makes 85% the salary a man for doing the same exact job, it's a problem.
Agreed in the sense that I've never heard a cash transfer plan that seems remotely fair. If you want to frame "reparations" in the sense of correcting systemic barriers to racial equality, then I'm more receptive. It's all about the details, but I don't think any Dem candidate is saying hey white people should write black people checks. Even Booker's "every kid gets money" doesn't have a racial component IIRC.
Well democratic socialism isn't "socialism" in the colloquial sense -- I don't think anyone is advocating for community ownership of the means of production. Most are simply talking about expanding social programs like Medicare and ensuring Social Security solvency.
Have any Dem candidates encouraged Antifa violence?
Not entirely sure what this references, but I agree that speech censorship is almost always a dangerous move.
No Dem candidate (except maybe Swalwell?) is advocating for anything beyond the lowest hanging fruit re: gun reform. Universal background checks and the minor things that 95+% of the population supports. Trump has done more to "curtail" gun rights than any Democrat in the last 30 years.
I think you should watch the Dem debates when they start in a few months. You might be surprised.
Number one on that list precludes ALL politicians-either side, either sex or preference, either color or either religion, yet we re elect the incumbents well above 90 percent of the time. The problem lies in that WE think they are all crooks, except the ones we support. Hate to tell you but, that one is a self serving crook too.
This was shared by my Facebook buddy today. I guess he is off the Trump train, since most (if not all) of these apply to the dear leader.
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Give a young crook a chance to spread the wealth, by pushing term limits.
-----if ICE gets downsized/disbanded as per several candidate platforms....it won't be open borders, but will get a lot closer to it. I think it's a legit argument and not really a stretch. Not that ICE is the answer in the first place, see previous post.
the current GOP is pretty aligned with Evangelist and white nationalist identity politics, so this finger is probably pointed at both parties.
-----You are COMPLETELY right. Hence I'm not jumping into bed on that side either.
......no one is advocating for perferential treatment/reward of females. But when a woman makes 85% the salary a man for doing the same exact job, it's a problem.
-----Females were an example. And I'm sorry, but I've looked, I can't find this except anecdotally. EXAMPLE: A woman works 35 hours a week and a man 40 and she gets paid less. Yup, makes sense. The argument though "there's a wage gap" doesn't take that into account. Look, if you'll send links that don't theorize but provide evidence then I'll gladly not only change my position, I'll stump for any and every group trying to make it better.
Agreed in the sense that I've never heard a cash transfer plan that seems remotely fair. If you want to frame "reparations" in the sense of correcting systemic barriers to racial equality, then I'm more receptive. It's all about the details, but I don't think any Dem candidate is saying hey white people should write black people checks. Even Booker's "every kid gets money" doesn't have a racial component IIRC.
-----Have to wait and see....
Well democratic socialism isn't "socialism" in the colloquial sense -- I don't think anyone is advocating for community ownership of the means of production. Most are simply talking about expanding social programs like Medicare and ensuring Social Security solvency.
-----The redistribution of wealth is a tenant of socialism, isn't it? And social programs expanded to "free for all" medical/education is also well into the tenants of socialism. And there's no shortage of candidates running on those platforms.
Have any Dem candidates encouraged Antifa violence?
-----That is my fault. Should have put a period, or some other punctuation and been clearer. And maybe attacks is to strong a word. Hillary called for an end of civility but that was just bluster and nothing more. Maxine Waters on the other hand. And I get that she's the extreme, but man.
Not entirely sure what this references, but I agree that speech censorship is almost always a dangerous move.
No Dem candidate (except maybe Swalwell?) is advocating for anything beyond the lowest hanging fruit re: gun reform. Universal background checks and the minor things that 95+% of the population supports. Trump has done more to "curtail" gun rights than any Democrat in the last 30 years.
----RE: universal background check. What does that even mean? Because I'm pretty sure I do one everyone I buy a gun online or in a store and then go to pick it up.
I think you should watch the Dem debates when they start in a few months. You might be surprised.[/QUOTE]
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Meant to respond to this....it's more along the lines of technology and social media. Namely Google, Facebook, and Twitter. These groups owners/senior staff have said they have liberal attitudes and that their platforms reflect that. (All available via YouTube) That's fine. It's very difficult for some people to not let emotions interfere with work. The problem is that if you're a platform, you lose the right to editorialize something that someone else puts out unless that content is illegal. The moment you say "meh, that's hateful, not cool, or in some cases we just don't like it and it must go" then you've became an editor. If you're an editor you're liable. I know we have better lawyers than me in the house so correct me if I'm wrong.
This is the Democratic problem. The people identifying as progressive or democratic are also the people who say, "no, that right you're guaranteed shouldn't be guaranteed because it hurts me or I don't like it or I don't want to give you the same rights as others that I agree with."
You are equal and unrestrained except where laws govern or you're biased, editors, and no longer allowed protections once enjoyed.
It's tough to pull for a team like that. And I worry that while some candidates aren't thinking of that stuff, their base may push them that way.
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Women (and other minorities) certainly get preferential treatment at government jobs. See it first hand all the time. In the private sector, the gender wage gap is overblown when put into context. First of all, rarely are there apples to apples comparisons with respect to the employees (years of experience, skill set, etc.) and the type of job. The fact is that women tend to chose other things instead of higher pay. They tend to prefer more time off, work less overtime, have less interest in pushing for a promotion, etc. A Harvard study recently confirmed all this.
I agree Trump is a big problem but the next boogie man is either on stage or just around the corner in our two party system. It literally never stops being about "just this one time we have to set aside principles and good ideas to defeat (insert generic opposing villain). We can worry about doing good things later so long as we stop (insert party name here) this one time."
That's what helped get Trump elected. If it gets the next dem elected it will just be more of the same. This is why I've rejected two party politics and urge others to do the same after the next most important election where (insert name here) must be stopped and then the next 10 elections after that with the same theme.
i get what you are saying, but trump is possible in large part to the complete devolution of the republican party since the late 70's. there is nothing remotely comparable on the democratic side. and so far as i can tell, no one in the dem primaries who is a demented narcissistic sociopath and if there was, not anything approaching a base that would support that.
I hear what you are saying as well and there is truth to it, but I maintain that this is still part of what got us into this mess so I don't see how more of the same is the solution other than it would get said "man" out of office.
Long term we need a new way. Will a time ever come when we don't "need" to save the republic just this once? It's become a running theme for at least 30 years.
Lost, but unconcerned about it.the mayor told me it was a new day in baltimore
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