the new normal in the u.s.?
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I'll just go ahead and mirror the sentiments expressed in the immigrant thread, to save time.
Also, this.
Also, this.
Not justifying any of this but if you want to know why people do this stuff...
Let's just go ahead and include ALL news sources as fake news. Who knows what is true any more? The networks (OTA & cable) and newspapers won't report obvious truths, overtly pick sides, ignore anything on the interior of the country, are condescending toward anyone who isn't an "insider"... and you wonder why people believe so-called "fake" news? I don't believe anything anymore, myself. Only what I see with my own eyes.
We could also include all the military and political propoganda purveyors, as well.
You're right about reaping what you sow. The Clinton/Obama machines and their minions and ilk have been sowing discord for 25 years. In the infamous words of one Rev. Wright: The chickens are coming home to roost.
Let's just go ahead and include ALL news sources as fake news. Who knows what is true any more? The networks (OTA & cable) and newspapers won't report obvious truths, overtly pick sides, ignore anything on the interior of the country, are condescending toward anyone who isn't an "insider"... and you wonder why people believe so-called "fake" news? I don't believe anything anymore, myself. Only what I see with my own eyes.
We could also include all the military and political propoganda purveyors, as well.
You're right about reaping what you sow. The Clinton/Obama machines and their minions and ilk have been sowing discord for 25 years. In the infamous words of one Rev. Wright: The chickens are coming home to roost.
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Look, I don't give anyone a pass. Everything is political and politicized. Obama could have stopped a LOT of what has happened on his watch but he chose to fan the flames because he is who we thought he was... a community organizer. Do I think Trump will be that much better with all his tweeting etc ? Not a chance. But Trump doesn't have an oiled machine like the Obamaistas and Clintonistas just ready and willing to be bussed to a riot/protest.
I want leaders who quit all the nonsense and idiocy and division. Red/Blue/Purple who cares. Lead and don't divide.
I offered an explanation, not a justification.
**Sigh** This is why I didn't participate in any political threads for the last 2 years. Guess I'll just go back to lurking on this forum.
it's not obama's fault that a bunch of lunatics are running around chasing conspiracy theories and doing crap like this. it is not obama's fault that what used to be the lunatic fringe is now front and center in our nation and is being normalized. we will just have to agree to disagree.
that was a joke about the coverage of events like this in the media. but yeah, the jokes (especially mine) can be pretty lame.
No, let's not. That's absurd.
So, Clinton and Obama are responsible for a far right extremist shooting up a restaurant based on fake news peddled by fringe conspiracy theorists that Trump embraced during his run for president? Sure, let's go with that.
I don't see Obama's friends pushing BS conspiracy theories that cause live shootings but maybe I'm missing something. But I have seen this story and I saw a guy kill 3 people in Colorado last year over a BS story pushed by the GOP and their friends
Events like this are not like armed robberies in which there is an object or a goal. Events like this and school shootings are simply homocidal mania. This type of behavior at the national level is new and has been developing over the last 15 years. You know there is something dreadfully wrong here.
"The police murdered this poor black guy in cold blood! He was such a sweet person and didn't deserve this!"
*Cue riots, assaults, property damage, attacks on police etc.*
Months later....
"Oh it turns out the police were in the right on this case, this guy has a long criminal history and acted aggressively towards police."
People are stupid and lazy and way too ready to look for a reason to be outraged. Fake news easily feeds this wanting for outrage.
that's fair, there are certainly issues on both sides and buttons are easily pushed. I'd argue that poor treatment of blacks by the police is at least a real issue being exploited whereas pizza based child trafficking rings and baby parts for profit are not based in reality but your larger point still stands
The non-sports forum is starting to remind me of the ol' democratic underground forums during the GWB administration. Lots of butt hurt.
yeah, people get upset when stupidity causes armed idiots to shoot up pizza parlors, shocking isn't it?
On this we are in complete agreement. Read. Critically. And if you are convinced a law is being broken, call law enforcement, or write your congressman.
If I was a Democrat and he was a Democrat, I'd say, "This guy really did not do what they say he did." Then once it was proven he did do what they say he did, I'd say, "They grabbed the wrong guy; the real perp was somebody else." Then, "We have to understand this guy's rage." Then, "These laws against assaulting someone with a deadly weapon are a relic of a bygone era with now real relevance to today's society. This behavior is really quite normal now."
Mercifully, I'm not a Democrat. I say, "prosecute him to the extent of the law."
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