The top teams in the Big 10 all lost in Bowl games.

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So much for the dominance of the Big 10. The flag bearers all lost. Wisconsin won but I thought they would dominate that team. The Big 10 is now 3 wins to 7 losses. The ACC is better than most people want to give them credit for they are 8-3. I think the media may have been to quick to crown a new king.
 

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At least my Buckeyes helped you by pumping up the egos of the Clemson players. :biggrin:
 

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I am sorry but I belong to the University of Alabama and not some alphabet soup conference. I could care less if the sec went 0-11 and Bama won out. I was at the game Saturday and only heard one sec chant, it lasted for 10 seconds.
 

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I still think the committee got the wrong Big 10 team. Penn State lost but they did score 49 points. Ohio State STILL hasn't scored.
After watching the bowl games one could certainly argue that Penn State would have scored at least some points against Clemson if they put up 49 against USC. The flip side of the debate was that PSU beat OSU in sort of a fluke fashion while OSU won the statistical battle. It will be interesting to see whether or not the committee changes the way they evaluate teams for future playoffs.
 
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I still think the committee got the wrong Big 10 team. Penn State lost but they did score 49 points. Ohio State STILL hasn't scored.
I'm not sure scoring 49 points and LOSING is a playoff asset. Fortunately, we will never have to hear about how Penn St got "robbed" and had a great team. Had they made it, they would have played Alabama...who scored as many points on USC as PSU gave up to USC.
 

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I'm not sure scoring 49 points and LOSING is a playoff asset. Fortunately, we will never have to hear about how Penn St got "robbed" and had a great team. Had they made it, they would have played Alabama...who scored as many points on USC as PSU gave up to USC.
Had Wisconsin won I would've been all for switching them and tOSU, but I think how PSU lost their games was too much.
 

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3-7 as a Conference this year...yeah I'll say that's overrated!!
Their top 5 teams were 0-4 against P5 teams and 1-0 vs the MAC. The SEC's top 5 were 4-1 vs the P5. The bottom rung, some of whom did not belong in a bowl, were 2-5. If Bama beats Clemson, the record for the top 5 teams would be 5-1, ACC 3-3, Big10 1-4, PAC12 2-3, Big12 3-2. The SEC has done a nice job in the more important games.
 

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I'm not sure scoring 49 points and LOSING is a playoff asset. Fortunately, we will never have to hear about how Penn St got "robbed" and had a great team. Had they made it, they would have played Alabama...who scored as many points on USC as PSU gave up to USC.
We came close to scoring 45 and losing to Clemson last year.


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Well, here's the catch...I don't think you can automatically go off the bowl games because there are too many factors in the exhibitions. I've said that for years. But on the flip side - given a lot of the Big Ten yap I heard two years ago when the SEC really took it on the chin in the bowl games (the West got smoked after looking like the best division all year long)....well, they either count or they don't.

What happened was an exposure here. I really, honestly thought Ohio State was a good all-around team....a little young, but it's hard to bet against Urban Meyer, too. And btw - we don't get to view these things anachronistically. You don't get to say AFTER Ohio State was blown out by Clemson, "well, they shouldn't have been there."

Seriously....who SHOULD have been there based on the regular season other than the Buckeyes?

If you argue Penn State then you have to have some decent explanation why I'm supposed to overlook their 39-point loss to Michigan AND their loss to Pitt merely "because they beat Ohio State head to head." (Do any of you seriously believe that 2006 Auburn or 2008 Ole Miss should have played in the national title game?)

So the Buckeyes still should have been there.


By the same token, however, it is now clear that the conference as a whole was overrated. This goes back to that circular argument. They had 'four really good teams' we were told. Two of them went 0-2 against the ACC, one beat a team that was only in the Cotton Bowl because of an impressive record against a mediocre schedule, and the other blew a two touchdown lead in the Rose Bowl. (Btw - is Penn State going to blame their loss like so many Big Ten fans want to impugn other conferences......on the weather? It was 52 degrees at kickoff, probably a heat wave for some Midwesterners.

So I don't mind saying the conference was unquestionably overrated this year. The SEC IS down from their glory years several years back BUT.....none of the other conferences have really stepped forward, either.
 

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While I don't place a whole lot of stock in rating conference strength based on bowl game records (remember the many, many posts on this forum that have said that bowl games just don't matter anymore?), I think that the 3-7 record makes it clear that we were not as good as we thought we were.

Still, the only B1G team that I care about got steam-rolled. We have a lot of work to do.
 

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