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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by PitMaster View Post
    Clemson got the best draw of zebras they could have hoped for

    With the playoff now in place, it is time for the ncaa to start making sure all conferences and crews call things the same way
    My only advice is root for OU and against PAC 12 and ACC throughout the season. That way we avoid Big 10 and BIG 12 refs for NCG

    But as my high school coach said, if you leave the game in the hands of the refs then you are flirting with disaster. Basically we needed to knock Clemson out, and we didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    My only advice is root for OU and against PAC 12 and ACC throughout the season. That way we avoid Big 10 and BIG 12 refs for NCG

    But as my high school coach said, if you leave the game in the hands of the refs then you are flirting with disaster. Basically we needed to knock Clemson out, and we didn't.
    That's what every coach is going to tell his players while knowing that's not always the case.
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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    As long as Alabama is in the championship and has a ground based offense you can expect to see PAC 12 or big 12 refs in the game, whichever conference isn't represented.


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    Last edited by PitMaster; January 11th, 2017 at 10:39 AM.

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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    That's what every coach is going to tell his players while knowing that's not always the case.
    Understandable, but in most cases the logic is very true.... unless you have a game in Jerkin Hair stadium

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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    That's pretty telling stuff. You will never convince me that refs are swallowing whistles to try and make the games more "even." I'm not going to blame the refs for the loss because we should have beaten Clemson straight up.

    But the penalty disparity is as blatant as the open date disparity was a couple of years ago. I mean, it's not even close.

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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Yes, Alabama was the team that had THE FEWEST penalties called on opponents over the course of the year. Clemson, on the other hand, was #4 in this category.

    And yet we still hear from folks who swear Bama gets preferential treatment from the refs, despite the facts. We had about 4 penalties called per game on opponents, and our pass rushers probably could have drawn a flag 10 or more times per game.

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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Anyone interested in this stat please see my thread where I did extensive research on a 14 year period. The results pretty much prove that we've been getting a raw deal ever since Coach Saban won his first title here. During the 7 year period before his first title our ranking was 46, but after we won and became successful the next 7 years we dropped to a ranking of 96. Quite a difference. They simply quit calling penalties on our opponents.
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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by PA Tide Fan View Post
    Anyone interested in this stat please see my thread where I did extensive research on a 14 year period. The results pretty much prove that we've been getting a raw deal ever since Coach Saban won his first title here. During the 7 year period before his first title our ranking was 46, but after we won and became successful the next 7 years we dropped to a ranking of 96. Quite a difference. They simply quit calling penalties on our opponents.
    Can you link it, would like to read your research

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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    But as my high school coach said, if you leave the game in the hands of the refs then you are flirting with disaster. Basically we needed to knock Clemson out, and we didn't.
    While I do agree with this train of thought, I also know part of the reason why Bama couldn't knock Clemson out because the refs were not doing their jobs (and Alabama couldn't get out of it's own way). While I won't blame the refs for the outcome, they most certainly do not get away scot-free from blame.
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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by PitMaster View Post
    Can you link it, would like to read your research

    https://www.tidefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279994



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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Interesting that the 2 "pick play" TDs were the same basic play that got called OPI in the Notre Dame - Florida State game a couple of years ago.


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    Re: Big 12 Officials for Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaiah 63:1 View Post
    The only way I can see to do that is to put all referees under NCAA control. In a sport whose championship the NCAA doesn't even govern, that's not likely. Perhaps the Power 5 could agree to merge their separate referees into one pan-conference group, but again that seems a stretch give their differing world views on football (and refereeing) philosophy.

    Maybe an exes and ohs guy can tell me: is it part of some coaches job, in game prep, to scout the referees and their tendencies?


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