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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    I wish there was an easy answer, but I don't know that there is - anything hot enough to melt concrete is going to be very difficult to retrieve and store.
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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    I wish there was an easy answer, but I don't know that there is - anything hot enough to melt concrete is going to be very difficult to retrieve and store.
    Shouldn't be that hot anymore. Corium cools and solidifies pretty quickly. Main goal at this point is to keep it undisturbed, contained, cool and to prevent it from leaching into the surrounding environment until it's safe enough to remove.

    Man, 500 Sieverts. That will render you incapacitated and dead very quickly depending on the type of radiation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    Man, 500 Sieverts. That will render you incapacitated and dead very quickly depending on the type of radiation.
    Just to give y'all and idea of how dangerous it is in there, twenty-three seconds is enough to hit the LD50/60. That's half of those exposed dead within sixty days. You'll feel queasy pretty quickly and will vomit and have uncontrollable diarrhea assuming you get out at that time. Even if you make it to those 60 days, you're still very likely to die within half a year.

    You'll vomit uncontrollably within about thirty seconds. You may survive a week or two after that, assuming you get out immediately, and may even feel OK for a few days, but you will die a very painful death somewhere in that span.

    One minute of exposure amounts to about nine-hundred Rems. That would kill you within the hour. You'll be unconscious in about that span. Left there a few minutes, you will die (mercifully) quickly.
    Just a barner.

    I think there should be a candlelight vigil in the grove tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    Just to give y'all and idea of how dangerous it is in there, twenty-three seconds is enough to hit the LD50/60. That's half of those exposed dead within sixty days. You'll feel queasy pretty quickly and will vomit and have uncontrollable diarrhea assuming you get out at that time. Even if you make it to those 60 days, you're still very likely to die within half a year.

    You'll vomit uncontrollably within about thirty seconds. You may survive a week or two after that, assuming you get out immediately, and may even feel OK for a few days, but you will die a very painful death somewhere in that span.

    One minute of exposure amounts to about nine-hundred Rems. That would kill you within the hour. You'll be unconscious in about that span. Left there a few minutes, you will die (mercifully) quickly.


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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

    300 tons of waste water are still dumping into the Pacific as well. What is that doing to the Ocean and marine life?

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    …8Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. 10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.…

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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Displaced Bama Fan View Post
    300 tons of waste water are still dumping into the Pacific as well. What is that doing to the Ocean and marine life?

    Revelations 8: 8-10

    …8Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. 10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.…
    Very little. The ocean is pretty good at diluting this stuff. In fact, one solution that would actually work very well would be to dump the whole thing into the center of the pacific. Trouble is, reactors are enormous.

    Compared to our own nuclear testing, the amount of radiation added to the environment would be paltry.
    Just a barner.

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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

    Some people are immune to good advice.

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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    Very little. The ocean is pretty good at diluting this stuff. In fact, one solution that would actually work very well would be to dump the whole thing into the center of the pacific. Trouble is, reactors are enormous.

    Compared to our own nuclear testing, the amount of radiation added to the environment would be paltry.
    I'm glad you are so optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    Compared to our own nuclear testing, the amount of radiation added to the environment would be paltry.
    People are living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (where radiation levels are the same is just about anywhere on earth) yet Chernobyl won't be safe for humans for an estimated 20,000 years...
    Some people are immune to good advice.

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    Re: Fukushima nuclear reactor radiation at highest level since 2011 meltdown

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    People are living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (where radiation levels are the same is just about anywhere on earth) yet Chernobyl won't be safe for humans for an estimated 20,000 years...
    That's because it's concentrated in an area where it can not disperse readily. For a comparison, all of the radiation released from nuclear weapons amounts to around 2,566 PBq. From Fukushima 15-30 PBq. From Chernobyl 12 PBq. Also, for comparison, the seas already contain 14,000 PBq of naturally occurring radioactive potassium 40.
    Last edited by AUDub; February 22nd, 2017 at 09:44 AM.
    Just a barner.

    I think there should be a candlelight vigil in the grove tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    That's because it's concentrated in an area where it can not disperse readily. For a comparison, all of the radiation released from nuclear weapons amounts to around 2,566 PBq. From Fukushima 15-30 PBq. From Chernobyl 12 PBq. Also, for comparison, the seas already contain 14,000 PBq of naturally occurring radioactive potassium 40.
    I'd guess the threat is due to the sheer amount of fuel we're talking about (reactor vs bomb).
    Some people are immune to good advice.

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