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    Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3237218/ar...refugee-policy

    Keep bringing them in, boys...one day it will be your wife or daughter.

    I'm sure he was thoroughly vetted as well.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    This can't be true they're all such nice guys.....fleeing for their lives from evil people.....

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    I'm looking over to the right to find the "not at all surprised" emoji.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    It all boils down to which has the worst downside.

    Periodic terrorist attacks.

    Or inconveniencing those who get caught up in the Islamic terrorism but are innocent.

    You can't have it both ways, it appears.

    IMHO, there's no way anyone can guarantee 100% to stop terrorist attacks.

    No way.

    Better vetting seems to make the most sense. We're already doing it at the airports with TSA and at border crossings with border patrol. We just need to make improvements with that process.

    I scanned through the article - but didn't see any reference to the vetting system of this man who did the attack. I would start with that, if I were in charge - and see if improvements could be made.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    Terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9/11. Link with data set


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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by CharminTide View Post
    Terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9/11. Link with data set

    Fake news. Only Muslims have ever killed people in America.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by CharminTide View Post
    Terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9/11. Link with data set

    So all the black on white attacks which are predominately hate crimes are not actually captured as left wing or the cop killings other than Dallas yet the one in Pennsylvania by the white dude who ambushed the PA State Trooper is "right wing" though. Interesting certain things are not classified as "terroristic" in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Displaced Bama Fan View Post
    So all the black on white attacks which are predominately hate crimes are not actually captured as left wing or the cop killings other than Dallas yet the one in Pennsylvania by the white dude who ambushed the PA State Trooper is "right wing" though. Interesting certain things are not classified as "terroristic" in nature.
    There is no consensus definition for what constitutes a terrorist attack, or mass shooting, or hate crime, or a number of other related terms. Hence why I linked to the data set for anyone interested.

    Although I find it interesting that you contend the relative proportion of radicalized Jihadist terrorist attacks should actually be decreased by including non-Jihadist attacks that weren't captured in this analysis.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    It appears that there are some tools in use to help mitigate jihadist attacks. Proper vetting of refugees and immigrants is one that may need improvement. Just because there are people killing Americans who fall outside of this umbrella does not mean we should ignore it.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    It all boils down to which has the worst downside.

    Periodic terrorist attacks.

    Or inconveniencing those who get caught up in the Islamic terrorism but are innocent.

    You can't have it both ways, it appears.

    IMHO, there's no way anyone can guarantee 100% to stop terrorist attacks.

    No way.

    Better vetting seems to make the most sense. We're already doing it at the airports with TSA and at border crossings with border patrol. We just need to make improvements with that process.
    There is one way that evidently no one has yet to consider. You make the punishment for terrorist attacks so unbelievably horrible that it borders on inhumane. Then you make examples of the first few who dare to carry out such attacks, just to show you're not not afraid to do so.
    You won't eliminate all terrorist attacks, but you'll stop enough of them that people will no longer be fearful of them in their everyday lives.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by CharminTide View Post
    There is no consensus definition for what constitutes a terrorist attack, or mass shooting, or hate crime, or a number of other related terms. Hence why I linked to the data set for anyone interested.

    Although I find it interesting that you contend the relative proportion of radicalized Jihadist terrorist attacks should actually be decreased by including non-Jihadist attacks that weren't captured in this analysis.
    I would contend that the powers that be, in this case the Obama administration, defined what was and what was not a terrorist attack based on O's support for the BLM movement which seemed to stir additional police shootings.

    Where did I "contend" that the proportion of radicalized jihadist attacks should actually be decreased?. I simply pointed out that the "left wing" attacks, imho, were not captured due to the "radicalization" of group such as BLM that spurred additional police attacks and other civilian-related attacks.

    Would you consider the mob action at Berkley as left-wing/terroristic? I mean, it was clearly in response to a so-called right-wing speaker and people were beaten and property was destroyed was it not. If I'm a victim (property owner or actual assault victim) I would consider it terroristic in nature given today's standard.

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    Re: Syrian refugee charged with multiple assaults involving underaged girls in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by day-day View Post
    It appears that there are some tools in use to help mitigate jihadist attacks. Proper vetting of refugees and immigrants is one that may need improvement. Just because there are people killing Americans who fall outside of this umbrella does not mean we should ignore it.
    How many of those Jihadist attacks inside the U.S. were conducted by refugees? If any even make the list, it's a vanishingly small number. We already have one of the most extensive immigrant vetting procedures in the world, and it seems to be working quite well. Our problem isn't immigrants or refugees sneaking past the borders, it's the radicalization of U.S. citizens and their easy access to weaponry. And sure, you can profile and monitor citizens with funny-sounding names, brown skin, or non-Christian faith, but that isn't the America I know. You can take away all access to guns, but that isn't the America I know either. And looking at these numbers, wouldn't you have to throw surveillance on white Christian Americans who hold far right ideology, and perhaps minorities within the far left as well? Don't you see the problem here?

    In the balance between freedom and security, my fulcrum always tends toward the side of freedom. Trump, Breitbart, and the far right have invented the threat of radicalized immigrants that has no basis in reality. When did America became so blindly craven that we would so willingly sacrifice freedom and not even gain security in the exchange?

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