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There is not a Democrat in the United States that wants a policy debate. What they want, and what they would in turn do to Pence as President, is to demonize, fear monger, and shout down any contradicting opinion from anyone without a D next to their name. You can call those that voted for Trump rubes, or idiots, or stupid, but Trump is the President because he connected with people and the issues that they felt most affected them. Will he address those issues? I don't know what he will accomplish, or maybe he will accomplish a little, or maybe he will probably not accomplish much. But, he is the President, and he's not going anywhere....
Overgeneralizations, while easy to make, don't move the conversation forward in any meaningful manner.
 

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So you are wanting a Mike Pence as President for the next 12 years? Please don't say that the Democrats are going to win back anything because they have no decent candidates and they have no vision on issues that matter to people in this country.
Per the 22nd amendment, the max we could have Pence as president is 10 years--if he serves as president for more than two years of Trump's term, he's only allowed to serve one additional term.
 

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There is not a Democrat in the United States that wants a policy debate. What they want, and what they would in turn do to Pence as President, is to demonize, fear monger, and shout down any contradicting opinion from anyone without a D next to their name. You can call those that voted for Trump rubes, or idiots, or stupid, but Trump is the President because he connected with people and the issues that they felt most affected them. Will he address those issues? I don't know what he will accomplish, or maybe he will accomplish a little, or maybe he will probably not accomplish much. But, he is the President, and he's not going anywhere....
 

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Per the 22nd amendment, the max we could have Pence as president is 10 years--if he serves as president for more than two years of Trump's term, he's only allowed to serve one additional term.
I'm not sure Pence would make a particularly formidable candidate, at least winning an election in his own right would not be a gimme.
 

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I'm not sure Pence would make a particularly formidable candidate, at least winning an election in his own right would not be a gimme.
I don't think he would have won Indiana in this election cycle, his constituents were pretty happy to see him go and have racing to undo the damage he caused
 
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Nothing to see here, move along.

Newsweek said:
These operations reflect a serious breakdown in the long-standing faith in the direction of American policy by some of the country’s most important allies. Worse, the United States is now in a situation that may be unprecedented—where European governments know more about what is going on in the executive branch than any elected American official. To date, the Republican-controlled Congress has declined to conduct hearings to investigate the links between Trump’s overseas business partners and foreign governments, or the activities between Russia and officials in the Trump campaign and administration—the very areas being examined by the intelligence services of at least two American allies.
Some details about Trump’s business partners were passed to the American government months ago. For example, long before the president’s inauguration, German electronic surveillance determined that the father of Trump’s Azerbaijani business partner is a government official who laundered money for the Iranian military; that information was shared with the CIA, according to a European source with direct knowledge of the situation.
 

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President Donald J said:
Leaking, and even illegal classified leaking, has been a big problem in Washington for years. Failing @nytimes (and others) must apologize!

The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!
1) Has the "failing nyt" thing actually caught on with people? He keeps using it as their subscriptions skyrocket.
2) The story is not going to magically change from his closest advisers speaking to Russian intelligence officials throughout the campaign while Russia was simultaneously hacking and releasing a coordinated propaganda campaign against his political opponent.
3) It's looking like he won't back down his attacks against the intelligence community and whistleblowers, so we can expect more leaks soon.
 

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1) Has the "failing nyt" thing actually caught on with people? He keeps using it as their subscriptions skyrocket.
2) The story is not going to magically change from his closest advisers speaking to Russian intelligence officials throughout the campaign while Russia was simultaneously hacking and releasing a coordinated propaganda campaign against his political opponent.
3) It's looking like he won't back down his attacks against the intelligence community and whistleblowers, so we can expect more leaks soon.
he knows his audience well.

he is having a campaign rally in florida this weekend.
 

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he knows his audience well.

he is having a campaign rally in florida this weekend.
And we're paying for that rally, right? Just checking. It'd be shame if more protesters than supporters showed up. A true shame.
 

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1) Has the "failing nyt" thing actually caught on with people? He keeps using it as their subscriptions skyrocket.
2) The story is not going to magically change from his closest advisers speaking to Russian intelligence officials throughout the campaign while Russia was simultaneously hacking and releasing a coordinated propaganda campaign against his political opponent.
3) It's looking like he won't back down his attacks against the intelligence community and whistleblowers, so we can expect more leaks soon.
I'm actually worried about the cold war this could kick-off within the government. Both the executive branch and intelligence agencies keeping information from one another and trying to undermine one another is a great recipe for America as a whole to lose.
 

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I'm actually worried about the cold war this could kick-off within the government. Both the executive branch and intelligence agencies keeping information from one another and trying to undermine one another is a great recipe for America as a whole to lose.
It's highly concerning that the intelligence community is so overtly acting like a shadow fourth branch of government in checking the power of the administration. You could argue that Comey's letter days before the election was the opening salvo in this campaign of leaked information. And while I think it's a net positive move right now, it sets a very worrying precedent. Once opened, most things are hard to put back in the bottle.

Depends on where in Florida. If it's north of Orlando I wouldn't count on it.
It's actually at the Orlando airport. So... even odds? ;)
 

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