Revolutionary Power Plant captures all it's carbon emissions

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interesting article but it doesn't tell me where or how they store the excess CO2 just that it it pipelined out of the energy creation loop. How are they storing it at no cost, as is claimed?
 

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interesting article but it doesn't tell me where or how they store the excess CO2 just that it it pipelined out of the energy creation loop. How are they storing it at no cost, as is claimed?
Geologically.

Pumping it into oil fields. "Enhanced Oil Recovery." This is good in two ways: it makes oil easier to recover, making wells more profitable, and the CO2 won't be going anywhere for a long long while. It's effectively sequestered.
 

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From the link:

The plan is to build these in oil regions, then transport the power,"

As long as natural gas is cheap and plentiful, coal is a fuel of the past. Sorry coal miners. Trumpster is wrong again.
 

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There are also regulations specific to coal use, arbitrarily raising its cost.
Coal extraction is extremely hazardous to the environment and unsafe for the workers. Burning coal is absolutely filthy. It stinks to high heaven and releases a ton of nasty stuff, not just CO2, unless properly scrubbed. The remaining ash is highly toxic.

Coal is going away, not because of these absolutely necessary regulations, but because the market is moving that way. That does not make these regulations meaningless.
 

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Coal extraction is extremely hazardous to the environment and unsafe for the workers. Burning coal is absolutely filthy. It stinks to high heaven and releases a ton of nasty stuff, not just CO2, unless properly scrubbed. The remaining ash is highly toxic.

Coal is going away, not because of these absolutely necessary regulations, but because the market is moving that way. That does not make these regulations meaningless.
Coal has benefited the world far in excess of its perceived cost.
 

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That's no reason to keep using it if safer, cleaner, cheaper options are available. Unless your salary depends on it, I suppose.

Or if you have some sort of sentimental attachment to anthracite.
If the TCO is cheaper, the market will eliminate coal use itself, which is what I already stated. There would be no reason to manipulate market forces to force its demise.
 

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That's no reason to keep using it if safer, cleaner, cheaper options are available. Unless your salary depends on it, I suppose.

Or if you have some sort of sentimental attachment to anthracite.
At the moment, fracking for NG is cheaper then coal. So which is more environmentallyfriendly?
 

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If the TCO is cheaper, the market will eliminate coal use itself, which is what I already stated. There would be no reason to manipulate market forces to force its demise.
Is it the sole purpose of these regulations is to manipulate the market?

Cheap natural gas is what is killing coal, and if wind and solar keep making the gains they are, NG will eventually face a similar demise.
 
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Is the sole purpose of these regulations is to manipulate the market?

Cheap natural gas is what is killing coal, and if wind and solar keep making the gains they are, NG will eventually face a similar demise.
Yes, regulations manipulate the market, especially when not applied evenly.
 

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Yes, regulations manipulate the market, especially when not applied evenly.
I disagree. I don't believe it is being given an unfair shake. It had its day in the sun. That time is coming to an end. I hate it for the folks that have relied on it to make a living, but I'm sure many felt the same way about horse drawn carriage manufacturers when automobiles supplanted them.
 
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