today in douglas county (just west of atlanta on i-20) link to ajc
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here are a couple of links to the original story - link
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sentences handed down in atlanta area confederate flag flying case
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30 days in jail....ok. 3 months? Maybe....
20 years? 15 years?
Seriously?
http://www.douglascountysentinel.co...cle_15b32c3d-dc70-5a30-9fed-5bf29e8648e3.html
15 years in Douglas county for Vehicular Homicide
http://dekalbda.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=253
15 years for critically injuring a child
http://www.madisonjournaltoday.com/...e-year-probation-for-homicide-by-vehicle.html
killed a man in her car, because she was stoned/drunk, etc. One year probation....
these are all in Georgia.
Send a message -- yes. But, 15-20 years is a bit excessive.
20 years? 15 years?
Seriously?
http://www.douglascountysentinel.co...cle_15b32c3d-dc70-5a30-9fed-5bf29e8648e3.html
15 years in Douglas county for Vehicular Homicide
http://dekalbda.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=253
15 years for critically injuring a child
http://www.madisonjournaltoday.com/...e-year-probation-for-homicide-by-vehicle.html
killed a man in her car, because she was stoned/drunk, etc. One year probation....
these are all in Georgia.
Send a message -- yes. But, 15-20 years is a bit excessive.
that seems pretty excessive to me. I don't think it should be a slap on the wrist because threatening to kill 8 year olds at their birthday party should get you time but anything more than a year served is more than I am willing to support.
i was surprised when i saw 20 years this morning in a headline. apparently all of the others (there were 15 in all) received shorter sentences (2-4 years) or community service. not sure what these two did to warrant the extra penalties. they were apparently convicted under the georgia's street-gang terrorism law. from the original story, there were folks in the group that pointed shotguns at the party (including the kids) and threatened to "kill the n-words" and this was only a few weeks after the charleston shooting, so i guess that played into it.
sort of sounds like the judge was trying to make an example as he also banished them from douglas county (i don't see that as a punishment
) after they serve their sentence.
LOL yeah, I banished myself from Douglass county decades ago. Do my best to stay out of Cobb tooi was surprised when i saw 20 years this morning in a headline. apparently all of the others (there were 15 in all) received shorter sentences (2-4 years) or community service. not sure what these two did to warrant the extra penalties. they were apparently convicted under the georgia's street-gang terrorism law. from the original story, there were folks in the group that pointed shotguns at the party (including the kids) and threatened to "kill the n-words" and this was only a few weeks after the charleston shooting, so i guess that played into it.
sort of sounds like the judge was trying to make an example as he also banished them from douglas county (i don't see that as a punishment
seems to me like they were offered deals, which everyone else took and these fools thought they could fight and win. Sort of feel bad for their kids for mom and dad to be gone for so long but then again these two could hardly be great parents.
Here are their sentences:
He sentenced Torres to 20 years, with 13 to serve in prison; Norton was given 15 years, with six to serve. Upon their release, McClain ordered them to be permanently banished from Douglas County.
I would go with 5 years in prison each. Parole in 3 years. Probation for 10 years. Why did these idiots go to trial? Why did they point a shotgun at people at a birthday party? Morons. Wonder if alcohol was involved?
He sentenced Torres to 20 years, with 13 to serve in prison; Norton was given 15 years, with six to serve. Upon their release, McClain ordered them to be permanently banished from Douglas County.
I would go with 5 years in prison each. Parole in 3 years. Probation for 10 years. Why did these idiots go to trial? Why did they point a shotgun at people at a birthday party? Morons. Wonder if alcohol was involved?
Not one person was injured and you get this kind of sentence?
Good grief, that judge should be removed.
Good grief, that judge should be removed.
This is like the Nebraska cornfield and roger Goodell type of ruling. The punishment clearly doesn't fit the crime. I would go 5 years if I wanted to make an example.
I love the emphasis the black reporter makes on the Confederate flag while minimizing the bigger threat - the gun. The flag wasn't going to be near the weapon a gun would, but I digress.
That being said - I have a serious problem with the notion that you get that kind of sentence for what was admittedly wrong, stupid, and criminal in the same world where a Brock Turner gets three months for sexual assault. Seems to me those sentences should have been reversed (and I know it wasn't the same court so let's not get bogged down in details).
Prison, yes. 20 years? You've got to be kidding me.
That being said - I have a serious problem with the notion that you get that kind of sentence for what was admittedly wrong, stupid, and criminal in the same world where a Brock Turner gets three months for sexual assault. Seems to me those sentences should have been reversed (and I know it wasn't the same court so let's not get bogged down in details).
Prison, yes. 20 years? You've got to be kidding me.
The article said they were intoxicated and pointing guns at people, including children. That is a recipe for disaster and they are very lucky nobody got hurt. For the reason this could have turned deadly, I support a harsh sentence. But 20 years is way out of bounds, especially since it seems to be more for a hate crime than brandishing a deadly weapon while drunk.
the racist crap they were doing needs to be nipped in the bud, imo. so while i think the sentences are pretty harsh, part of me thinks,good, maybe the rest of these idiots will get the memo. what they were doing is the equivalent of the klan burning a cross in a black person's yard and should be treated as such. i think that is why they went after this group with the street gang law. i haven't seen any reporting yet (only read a couple of stories) as to why these two were singled out
Community service for 2 years is what they should have gotten. Specifically helping the minority community.
I don't know how this would work but sitting in a jail cell doesn't help anyone.....if you want to send a message....send a message.
Lazy work by the judge.
I don't know how this would work but sitting in a jail cell doesn't help anyone.....if you want to send a message....send a message.
Lazy work by the judge.
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