WH to no longer contest TX voter ID law

cuda.1973 said:

FIFY.

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RollTide_HTTR said:

So, I don't think we are going to agree about how many people do or don't vote illegally. But, why would you not create programs or a national program that are effective at making sure every citizen has a free ID. The goal for our country in general should be to get as many Americans to vote as possible. If you are going to make it harder for them to vote with a Voter ID law then you need to also make it easy to get an ID at no financial cost or ridiculous time cost.

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CharminTide said:

I would be fine with this compromise, but only if we first ensured that all legal voters possess such identification before instituting voting restrictions based on it.

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RollTide_HTTR said:

So if the possibility exists that a law could be broken are you arguing we need to do everything to stop said law from being broken even if there is no proof that anyone is breaking the law? Or in this case there is proof that it isn't being broken to any significant extent?

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Virginia election officials quietly removed 5,556 voters for non-citizenship between 2011 and May 2017;
1,852 of those removed as noncitizens cast ballots;
A total of 7,474 illegal ballots were cast from the pool of removed noncitizens;

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In 2014, three professors from two Virginia universities estimated, based on comprehensive survey data, that 6.4 percent of the nation’s non-citizen population voted illegally in the 2008 election, enough to have changed the outcome in some states. In 2008, more than 1,200 felons illegally cast votes in Minnesota’s ultra-close Senate race, in which Al Franken was ultimately declared the winner by 312 votes.

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Tidewater said:

After three lawsuits, scores of record requests, and reviews voter history files across 133 Virginia jurisdictions, the Public Interest Legal Foundation has uncovered the following:



These 5,556 were removed from the rolls because they self-reported. i.e., they said they were US citizens on one voter registration form and then later said they weren't. There is no systematic scrubbing of voter rolls for non-citizens who maintained the lie that they were citizens.

Hillary Says Voter Suppression Cost Her the Election; At the same time, real evidence of illegal-alien voting surfaces.

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Displaced Bama Fan said:

And many of them do. Many are here to work despite coming here illegally. I respect them for one aspect but not the other.

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CharminTide said:

Interesting.

Justice John Roberts Relied on Incorrect Data to Gut Voting Rights Act

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day-day said:

The percentage of non-Hispanic whites included in the "white alone" category is so high that I doubt removing immigrants from the data would make a significant difference or sway the decision.

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CharminTide said:

I would love to see the corrected data, but I stop short of making these kinds of assumptions. We are talking about the fastest growing ethnic group in the country.

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More than 99 percent of voter fraud identified by a GOP-backed program is false, a study by Harvard, Yale, and Microsoft researchers found. Now Indiana is using the faulty program to de-register voters without warning.

In July, Indiana rolled out a new law allowing county officials to purge voter registrations on the spot, based on information from a dubious database aimed at preventing voter fraud. That database, the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program, identifies people in different states who share the same name and birthdate. Crosscheck has long been criticized as using vague criteria that disproportionately target people of color. Now Indiana voters who share a name and birthdate with another American can have their registrations removed without warning—a system ripe for abuse, a new lawsuit claims.

If Crosscheck found that an Indiana resident’s name and birthdate matched that of a person in another state, Indiana law used to require officials to ask that person to confirm their address, or wait until that person went two general election cycles without voting, before the person’s name was purged from Indiana voter rolls.

Under the state’s new law, officials can scrub a voter from the rolls immediately. That’s a problem for Indiana residents, particularly people of color, a Friday lawsuit from Common Cause and the American Civil Liberties Union argues.

A recent study by researchers at Microsoft, as well as Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Pennsylvania universities found that, for every legitimate case of double-registration, Crosscheck erroneously flagged 200 voters who were only registered in one state.

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CharminTide said:

Indiana Purging Voters Using Software That’s 99% Inaccurate

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92tide said:

well, when hundreds of thousands of eye-legals are voting in every election, drastic measures are needed

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