FIFY.The time to do something was years ago before they had successful missile tests but, Bush didn't have the balls. Now, no matter what we do, I fear we end up in a much deadly war.
North Korea's first nuclear test was in 2006.
FIFY.The time to do something was years ago before they had successful missile tests but, Bush didn't have the balls. Now, no matter what we do, I fear we end up in a much deadly war.
China wants SK under their thumb just as NK is. They covet SK tech and Intellectual Property.China does not want SK & NK unified, so they will not cooperate.
not really. China is less of the boogeyman that they were under Mao. China would like a more reasonable NK, but not at the expense of having US troops on the Chinese border. They are more in the position that we were in during the Georgian Crisis in 2008 in which our "friends" (Georgians) poked the bear (Russia) and expected us to come and help when Russian tanks rolled in. The problem is the same in that the big ally has evolved from Cold War politics.China wants SK under their thumb just as NK is. They covet SK tech and Intellectual Property.
Why could we notbring out troops home from there? Would not be a bad trade for us
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China wants themaround to needle us. They will use them to attack us when they sprintThyudiclies Trap.
Problem is that nukes aren't really the problem yet. Our hands are pretty much tied militarily because of the massive amount of conventional weapons pointed at Seoul and that goes back 20 years or more.FIFY.
North Korea's first nuclear test was in 2006.
Yah, this problem has existed for decades, no question.Problem is that nukes aren't really the problem yet. Our hands are pretty much tied militarily because of the massive amount of conventional weapons pointed at Seoul and that goes back 20 years or more.
I think that is a cause not an effect. Nobody in North Korea rebels because they are fed a steady diet of "DPRK is great," "ROK is a lie," and "the US is evil and about to invade."Yah, this problem has existed for decades, no question.
And while I believe that it's up to the oppressed to fight for their own freedom - it's not our business - it's stunning to me that there is still a country in 2017 that can be so oppressive, no controlling of media and thought.
China is a bit different than they were 30 years ago. Today, they are making money hand over fist.That China allows this to continue shows that the 'new, capitalistic China' is no different than it was 30 years ago. As long as fatboy kim and company can act as a buffer for China, they'll continue to allow his atrocious rule.
One of these days they're going to blow themselves up and take care of the problem for us.
I think it just hit the fan. :eek2:Seoul, South Korea (CNN)North Korea carried out its most powerful nuclear test to date on Sunday, claiming to have developed an advanced hydrogen bomb that could sit atop an intercontinental ballistic missile.
The bomb used in the country's sixth-ever nuclear test sent tremors across the region that were 10 times more powerful than Pyongyang's previous test a year ago, Japanese officials said.
Man, I don't care for this one bit...I think it just hit the fan. :eek2:
China has been helping them the whole time (Russia too since Putin took power) . They now see America as weak and vunerable.1- they've had outside help
I do not know.
Until China takes over.My bet is on shifting to the latter position ("we will remove you from the map if you use a nuke") and leaving it be.
Not trying to be overly disputatious, but takes over what, North Korea? To what end? The Chinese already have what they want, a North Korea independent of South Korea and a bur under the saddle of the US. Why change that?Until China takes over.
A unified Korea under NK control is that the Chinese want.Not trying to be overly disputatious, but takes over what, North Korea? To what end? The Chinese already have what they want, a North Korea independent of South Korea and a bur under the saddle of the US. Why change that?
But there'a zero chance they ignite a proxy war with the US over it.A unified Korea under NK control is that the Chinese want.