ESPN cutting on air jobs in latest effort to stop the bleeding.
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He has been hired and fired many times. Always hired because of his intellect. Always fired because of his politics. Eventually he just can't help himself and goes too far. Fringe people do this (on both sides). They should get fired. You can say what you mean without demeaning others.
I know Olbermann was canned a second time, but he's also known as a horrible coworker.
Every SportsCenter host could come out in support of most left of center measures and no one would bat an eye. Come out in defense of the NC bathroom bill and it's a forced apology or a two-week vacation.
This is a good read, albeit from a right of center source:
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...dium=social&utm_content=progressive-activists
Every SportsCenter host could come out in support of most left of center measures and no one would bat an eye. Come out in defense of the NC bathroom bill and it's a forced apology or a two-week vacation.
This is a good read, albeit from a right of center source:
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...dium=social&utm_content=progressive-activists
anybody play Streak for the Cash on ESPN fantasy? it has had a drastic change as well. Now they have added Emmy and Oscar picks and The Bachelor (seriously?) Election night they had picks there as well. There was even a bracket pool for The Bachelor.
E STANDS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!
M STANDS FOR MOBILE!
I realize it's likely that few under 40 will get the second reference (hint: it's not about a city in Alabama), or my intended equivalence...
Mrs. Isaiah, before I knew her, worked at KCBS when Olbermann was there. She won't ever give me details (she's classier than I), but it's clear she'd agree with that...
I am surprised anyone thinks that ESPN is even-handed. They are far left on almost any issue they promote or comment on. Their political slant comes from the top, i.e., from Disney, and everyone at ESPN knows it.
IMO, they thought they had a captive audience and could force their agenda on the "ignorant, bigoted, religious, racist, etc. rubes" in their audience and help us see the light. While probably a small % have unsubscribed because of this, it has contributed to the overall lack of desire for ESPN and has likely pushed many who were equivocating on keeping cable over the edge. And among subscribers, it has probably caused the audience of many of their offerings to diminish. There are also many other sports viewing options now.
Again, IMO, it's their prerogative to express any political view they desire, (I actually kinda agree with a few things in moderation), and it's mine to tune out, disagree, unsubscribe, etc. I guess, ironically, the only question would be whether they are fulfilling their fiduciary responsibilities towards their stockholders. Their political agenda means a lot to Disney. They are willing to bleed; the question is how much. ESPN only contributes about 1/8 of Disney's total revenue, so they can absorb a lot.
IMO, they thought they had a captive audience and could force their agenda on the "ignorant, bigoted, religious, racist, etc. rubes" in their audience and help us see the light. While probably a small % have unsubscribed because of this, it has contributed to the overall lack of desire for ESPN and has likely pushed many who were equivocating on keeping cable over the edge. And among subscribers, it has probably caused the audience of many of their offerings to diminish. There are also many other sports viewing options now.
Again, IMO, it's their prerogative to express any political view they desire, (I actually kinda agree with a few things in moderation), and it's mine to tune out, disagree, unsubscribe, etc. I guess, ironically, the only question would be whether they are fulfilling their fiduciary responsibilities towards their stockholders. Their political agenda means a lot to Disney. They are willing to bleed; the question is how much. ESPN only contributes about 1/8 of Disney's total revenue, so they can absorb a lot.
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I mean, I think it says something that ESPN could be seen as "far left"
They not calling for seizing the means of production or anything...
They not calling for seizing the means of production or anything...
I was thinking about social issues. Yea, they probably don't comment much on economic philosophy. I'll rephrase it to "left"
. I don't keep up closely, but I'm unaware of any social issue where they take anything but a liberal stance, and they intimidate and suppress any opposing view via the threat of censure or job loss.
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Yeah - far left is pretty much on point. Shows exactly how far left the left has moved in 20 years. Most of Bill Clinton's (who was left of center when in office) policies would be considered radical right now. It's the left that's driven discourse further and further to the left. Enough of that before we have to move to non-sports though...
John Kincaid referenced this on hiis weekend show on cbs sports radio - this survey shows only 4% of media voted for Trump
http://thebiglead.com/2017/03/08/bi...y-4-of-media-surveyed-voted-for-donald-trump/
http://thebiglead.com/2017/03/08/bi...y-4-of-media-surveyed-voted-for-donald-trump/
For the record, refusing to vote for Trump doesn't make you a "liberal." There are A LOT of reasons not to vote for a guy like that.
all y'all missed the point entirely by focusing on how they voted. Look at how they stand on the issues.
Even before getting into the voting stats, the article states that the sports media self identified as 58% democrat. that is 27% points higher than the general population. Only 6% were republicans. That's 25% points lower than the general population.
On social issues, 77% of the media SELF identified as very liberal, while the general population result has 75% in the middle.
In the primary statistics, 48% preferred Clinton, while 24% preferred SANDERS who is much further left than Clinton. For those doing the math, that 72% (basically the same % that voted for Obama) with a stated preference for a far left candidate, and to someone's earlier point, 24% supporting a guy who would privatize production of many industries if he could.
net - the sports media, and media in general is completely out of touch and out of alignment with the general population, regardless of whether Trump was the candidate or not...
The thing is that regardless of how the public feels, the public "average" could be skewing towards wrong. I am strong supporter of socially liberal initiatives so long as they stay out of the homes and the temples. You know, don't infringe on reasonable personal and religious privacy...other than that, lets make the public world a commons fit for all different types of people.
Again, this has always been true. People go into media jobs for a reason. Most media members are progressive, and that has always been true. It is like saying that most members of clergy are conservative. It is a given, and it has nothing to do with "being out of touch" with anyone.
Surveys aren't perfect science, but they do provide a good insight on the population in question.
And we've shown the media members who voice their conservative views or thoughts have faced punishment while the majority - if not all - liberal view points go without any punishment.
Seems a tad-bit wrong.
So, what part of 80% did you miss? Where did anyone say if you didn't vote for Drumpf that made you a liberal?
Yes, I think most here know one can stay home, vote 3rd party, etc. I felt your remark was flippant.
I've said my peace.
It seems this thread is drifting into the lockdown mode. But I would like to sincerely thank all for allowing us to have a thirteen page thread discussing politics (on ESPN) without getting political. It can be done and again, thanks to all.
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