How Nick Saban Described Alabama's Unique QB Situation
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Not what any of us are saying. Some of us were saying Krazy's comment was correct and yours was wrong and you used a comparison to try to get your pointless comment across. I think you would have to agree.
Is Trent Dilfer a better quarterback than Dan Marino?
Greg McElroy won a national title, but you won't convince me that all things being equal, he's a better qb than, say, Aaron Murray.
Greg McElroy won a national title, but you won't convince me that all things being equal, he's a better qb than, say, Aaron Murray.
Wow....just checked out the third and fourth pages of the thread. My question would be.."Is Moro Bottom in Auburn or Norman"?
Say it with me everyone. Championships are a TEAM accomplishment and not an individual player award. Championships should only be used to differentiate QBs careers when they have similar career stats IMO.
I agree 100%. Not even sure you can use a Championship (even stats) to help differentiate between two QBs on different teams. Holieway's skill set fit well with what Oklahoma ran during his time, but was he a better QB that Troy Aikman? Or several of our championship QB's of late?
I also respect your opinion Moro Creek, as QB threads are always the most opinionated and controversial on this board. We are a passionate bunch.
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No grief to me what others say because that's their opinion. I have strong opinions. There no use in anyone being ugly because of that. Standard to me is winning, if that's absurd, so be it.
You're using a team award to judge a single player's season. That's not very doable.
How many true freshmen win SEC Offensive Player of the Year?
How many true freshmen QBs rack up the stats Jalen had last year?
How many true freshmen QBs go 13-1 and have their team within 2 minutes of a title?
When you're talking about comparing two players solely based on a team award, it's very absurd.
Again, you're comparing two players solely by a team award. Jalen's stats were much better than Holieway's freshman stats. IIRC, Jalen's freshman stats were better than any of Holieway's four years in Norman.
Do you honestly not see the difference here?
1985 Jamelle Holieway
12 games (11-1)
passing 8.9 yards average
Rushing 5.0 yard average
2016 Jalen Hurts
15 games (14-1)
passing 7.3 yards average
rushing 5.0 average
Seems close to me.
12 games (11-1)
passing 8.9 yards average
Rushing 5.0 yard average
2016 Jalen Hurts
15 games (14-1)
passing 7.3 yards average
rushing 5.0 average
Seems close to me.
Why did you leave off Jalen's 13 rushing TDs and 23 passing TDs and Holieway's 9 rushing TDs and 5 passing TDs?
Jalen threw 23 TDs in his first season. Holieway threw 22 TDs in his four years combined.
Want to mention completion percentage? One completed 62.8% of his passes while the other completed 41.4% of his.
Seems you don't know when to quit. Those are situational stats you want to make work for your argument. Here are the true stats.
Holliway
Rushing
173 rushes 862 yds 5.0 yds/rush 9 TD's
Passing
27-64 608 yds 42.1% 6 TD 2 int
Hurts
Rushing
191 rushes 954 yds 5.0 yds/rush 13 TD's
Passing
240-382 2780 yds 62.8% 23 TD's 9 ints
Would anyone think this is close?
You do realize that one ran a wishbone and one ran a pro set / spread? Holieway only threw the ball 58 times the whole year. The only way to compare stats is averages.
Holieway was 24/58 for 517 yards as a true freshman. Hurts was 240/382 for 2780 yards. Hurts also had superior rushing statistics and won more games. The only real comparison is they were both true freshman that put their team in position to win a championship. In terms of who was the better true freshman quarterback? The comparison is a joke, next we might hear that Holieway was a better QB than Bart Starr since he won more championships in college...
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Wow, you're being petty. But look at my edit time and the time of your post....
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