If the Big 12 does fall apart, they offer a school that they should have never gotten - West Virginia. They could swap divisions with Missouri.
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I think Texas and Oklahoma join the PAC 12 at some point. The remaining 8 teams scramble to find a landing spot, possibly in a Group of 5 conference. That would leave 4 major conferences with 14 teams each. At some point these 4 conferences may expand to 16 teams which would represent half of what is now FBS membership.I agree there was a window of opportunity for OU to join the SEC back in 2010-2011. I think that window closed with the admission of Missouri to the league.
Any future expansion, I think, will branch out eastward into schools either in the state of North Carolina or Virginia. Geographically and economically, that would make the most sense at this time.
By process of elimination, I think you're right.I think Texas and Oklahoma join the PAC 12 at some point. The remaining 8 teams scramble to find a landing spot, possibly in a Group of 5 conference. That would leave 4 major conferences with 14 teams each. At some point these 4 conferences may expand to 16 teams which would represent half of what is now FBS membership.
That wasted Saturday, which I will agree with you from the fan's standpoint, sends a million bucks their way to educate people and pay professors.Count me among those who think Chattanooga is a wasted Saturday.
PASSING OFFENSE RANKINGS OF ALABAMA OPPONENTSAnd let's be real about the schedule. While it was tough, and probably the most physically grueling schedule, it was ideal for us in that most of the teams we faced could not pass. And I mean teams that made our sos #1 like LSU and Auburn.
Whom?So there were probably schedules out there considerably more risky for us to have played.
You can't out muscle Bama and you can't run on us. But a gunslinger can take us out. And several have in recent years.
I'm going to assume this is talking about the last year or so since two quarterbacks from the SEC West won the Heisman in a three-year span.So in that sense the SEC west schedule is a good fit for us.
You're correct about it being a pretty much useless game in terms of national perception, etc, but it enables our guys to have what amounts to a scrimmage and sends UTC home with big bucks for the school. So it DOES have a larger purpose than athletics.I guess I agree with you that our schedule is too grueling physically to add another monster game.
But Chatanooga? To me that's like the heavyweight champion beating down some smuck from pallokaville. There is just no honor in it.
Selma already fleshed it out but those cupcake games serve a major purpose for us and for the cupcake school.
One facet that hasn't been mentioned is that the SEC - rightfully, IMO - is not going to put conference games on the weekend before Thanksgiving. There are no Power 5 or Group of 5 schools who will play that weekend, as they've all got conference games and are trying to get bowl eligible.
Be that as it may, the games aren't going anywhere. Instead of whining about not playing better games, I wish our fans - and the media - would consider why we end up having such games on the schedule when we do, and what the positive effect is for the schools that come in to play us.Look, I'm with JaxTider on this in that I hate those games, too. I may buy season tickets from someone again this year, but I'm pained at the notion of trying to dump the Mercer game tickets. Let's face it: nobody wants that game other than Mercer's financial folks, I can't sell it for much if anything, and do you really think I want to drive 609 miles one way to watch a scrimmage and then have to drive back 609 the other way? (I'd go if I lived close, which is why I usually give them to someone who couldn't go otherwise).
I'd prefer an off week to be honest with you, especially with how many games we've played in recent years.
Do you guys realize that any senior who just finished at Alabama (potentially) played FIFTY-SEVEN football games at the collegiate level? Keep in mind that a few generations ago with Coach Bryant, freshmen couldn't play and there were ten or at most 11 games per season? Bryant's 1961 national championship team's seniors would have played a total of 33 games of college football, starting inn 1959. And think about this: if Griffith's kick goes in at Auburn and Kiffin doesn't relax with the 21-6 lead against Ohio State, we not ony play TWO MORE games during the last four years, but we play two games against HIGHLY RANKED and talented foes (Mizzou and Oregon).
That would have been 59 football games in college. This is why the rumor has been our guys have miles on them - because some do.
I understand that many people don't like these games, and I certainly understand that you wouldn't want to drive that far to watch them; however, I still say these games are great for college football. The bands still play. The people still show up, and many times it is the people who can't afford the big games, so they often bring extra enthusiasm to campus. The kids from the smaller schools get jacked up with the chance to showcase their talent and maybe impress some scouts, which the draft always reveals there are some late bloomers who were missed by the marquee programs. Often times, the second and third teamers get some needed experience. I just don't understand why people dislike these games so much. First, you made an excellent point about these guys needing a break. Now, you mentioned that you would rather have an off date, but we all know that isn't going to happen. Second, if people don't like these games, don't watch them. Do something else. Hang with the family. Go for a hike. Do some yard work. I mean, really, you don't have to watch. Third, even in the NFL, where every team is supposed to be great or at least have the same opportunity to be great, blowouts still happen. Fourth, we all know that we love it when we see a smaller school upset one of the powerhouses, as long as it isn't us, of course.Look, I'm with JaxTider on this in that I hate those games, too.
I'd prefer an off week to be honest with you, especially with how many games we've played in recent years.
Do you guys realize that any senior who just finished at Alabama (potentially) played FIFTY-SEVEN football games at the collegiate level? Keep in mind that a few generations ago with Coach Bryant, freshmen couldn't play and there were ten or at most 11 games per season? Bryant's 1961 national championship team's seniors would have played a total of 33 games of college football, starting inn 1959. And think about this: if Griffith's kick goes in at Auburn and Kiffin doesn't relax with the 21-6 lead against Ohio State, we not ony play TWO MORE games during the last four years, but we play two games against HIGHLY RANKED and talented foes (Mizzou and Oregon). do.
Well, if the SEC would man up like the Big 10 does then I wouldn't have to whine. Maryland plays Towson and Rutgers plays Morgan State. The other 12 teams don't HAVE TO PLAY FCS teams.Be that as it may, the games aren't going anywhere. Instead of whining about not playing better games, I wish our fans - and the media - would consider why we end up having such games on the schedule when we do, and what the positive effect is for the schools that come in to play us.
I think Oklahoma would be fun to have in the SEC some day. I like the idea of 4 super conferences in general so maybe a declining Big 12 will be a good thing for that idea. Or not.
Not really, at that point we're basically playing out a scenario like we saw with the Big East. They simply won't be considered a power conference anymore than the AAC is considered one now. Also, there is incentive for the teams leaving to want the conference to blow up behind them (that would prevent them from incurring any penalties).O.K., so Oklahoma and Texas go west. Now we have eight Power Five teams left in B12. If they invite four more teams to join, then we still have Five Power Five conferences, don't we? When W Virginia and TCU joined a Power Five conference they automatically became Power Five schools. So I think we would still have Five Power Five schools. I can see BYU, Houston, Memphis and Navy joining the other eight and we still have a Big 12. Or Houston, Memphis, UCF and USF.
You are right, I had forgotten about the old Big East limping along. I wonder if the Pac 12 will stop at 14 teams? If they think the B1G, SEC and ACC will add two more, then they may add six and become the first 16 team super conference. Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas and Kansas State would add the basketball power. Give them Colorado back along with Utah and you have the Pac 16 East.Not really, at that point we're basically playing out a scenario like we saw with the Big East. They simply won't be considered a power conference anymore than the AAC is considered one now. Also, there is incentive for the teams leaving to want the conference to blow up behind them (that would prevent them from incurring any penalties).
Also, I really don't see just Texas and Oklahoma making a break for it. It seems more likely they are saddled with Texas Tech and Oklahoma St. respectively. The loss of those four programs wouldn't outright kill the conference, but it would be close to it. Either way it would spell the end as a power football conference.
Don't see that happening anytime soon.I see Texas going independent and signing with NBC before I see them going to another conference. Oklahoma needs to make friends or drop okie lite by the wayside because no one outside the ACC will go with that deal without a lot of persuading
The Oklahoma AD didn't do the Big 12 any favors Friday when he said "at the moment" we are not looking to leave the Big 12 ....."but we are keeping our options open for a few years." LOL. We are waiting till the contracts get close to ending. That sure made the other members nervous, I'll bet, or feel threatened actually.I see Texas going independent and signing with NBC before I see them going to another conference. Oklahoma needs to make friends or drop okie lite by the wayside because no one outside the ACC will go with that deal without a lot of persuading
I really believe the Big 10 is trying to save their remaining slots for a bigger addition. I imagine they still have their eyes on Texas for example, so I really doubt they'd sink to adding a middle-tier Texas team. The ACC on the other hand? They're the second most endangered Power 5 conference, it is within reason that they make some additions just to solidify what they have. Along those lines though, I could easily imagine Kansas going to the ACC if the Big 12 falls apart.Purely from a viewership stance, the ACC or B1G would add a hunk of T.V. set by adding TCU and Baylor.
It really seems like the days of independents is a thing of the past. Having said that, I could imagine some scenario in which Texas made a Notre Dame like deal with ACC (the ACC is the only one of the other four conferences willing to make a deal like that). Texas doesn't play well with others, doesn't want to share revenue, etc... but why would they have that deal now with the Big 12 and can probably maintain it as long as they're around. So, I see some incentive to leaving for the Pac-12, but there doesn't seem to be much to gain from going independent.I see Texas going independent and signing with NBC before I see them going to another conference. Oklahoma needs to make friends or drop okie lite by the wayside because no one outside the ACC will go with that deal without a lot of persuading
The Big 12 expansion, or lack thereof really played out in a strange way. The reason to expand served three purposes. A: It solidified the conference by adding another couple of members. B: It gave them a conference championship game (let's take a moment to reflect on the fact that pretty much any NCAA rule can be waived or ignored now) and C: It could either add a couple of programs that could provide decent ratings, or could expand their households which would strengthen them in the case of an eventual network.The Oklahoma AD didn't do the Big 12 any favors Friday when he said "at the moment" we are not looking to leave the Big 12 ....."but we are keeping our options open for a few years." LOL. We are waiting till the contracts get close to ending. That sure made the other members nervous, I'll bet, or feel threatened actually.