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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    FSU is a tossup.

    Will will win the rest of the games and the conference unless there are too many injuries, or injuries to the kinds of players you just can't lose. IOW, we can overcome some injuries, but some we probably cannot. The separation of talent and depth between Alabama and the rest of the league has never been greater.

    I will agree with saying LSU and Auburn are wildcards, but that's as far as I will go. The LSU game is in Tuscaloosa this year and we've started a little trend of blowing them out at home lately. Auburn is always a concern but it will take the aforementioned injuries on our part and them having an outstanding year leading up to the game. If they show up 7-4, we will win going away in the 4th. If they are 10-1, it will be a ballgame.

    The East sucks and we will destroy whichever team makes the SECC if we are there.

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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    A&M will be good in September and October and fold like a cheap suit in November

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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonProf View Post
    Some of y'all are forgetting that Gus' offense is pretty solid when he's got a credible downfield passer.


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    I agree. They will have everyone's attention though after they beat Clemson in their opener.
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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    FSU and LSU will be our toughest games, but I think MSU is probably the scariest one. Auburn is always worrisome down there, but they may have already given up by then

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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by deliveryman35 View Post
    I agree. They will have everyone's attention though after they beat Clemson in their opener.
    I highly doubt AU beats Clemson. Especially not up in Death Valley.

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    I think a few things to consider about Auburn is that they do better when not hyped, and they haven't beat LSU on the road since 1999. Their qb has some health concerns and is going against some of the best defenses in the country. The only thing that has me concerned about playing Auburn is playing them down there. JHS is a very weird venue to play in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaJama17 View Post
    I highly doubt AU beats Clemson. Especially not up in Death Valley.
    I highly doubt that you end up being right. Clemson will quickly come back down to earth with DW gone. IOW, Clemson will be Clemson again and Malzahn finally has a QB. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the barn wins at Auburn with a Lake by double digits. DW was worth at least 14 pts/game IMO. Take him out of the equation and I think Clemson is very average. Shoot, an inept barn team almost beat them WITH DW last season...
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    Quote Originally Posted by deliveryman35 View Post
    I highly doubt that you end up being right. Clemson will quickly come back down to earth with DW gone. IOW, Clemson will be Clemson again and Malzahn finally has a QB. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the barn wins at Auburn with a Lake by double digits.
    Clemson has recruited very well. They won't fall that far.

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    I honestly see auburn as an 8-4 team at best. They have a killer schedule after their Mercer game that they will atleast lose 2 of the 5, then they will lose to UGA and UA. They can easily lose to Clemson or Missouri on the road. If Stithdum gets hurt the wheels will come off completely

    With Stithdum: losses to MSU, LSU, UGA, and UA at the very least

    Without: losses to practically every SEC team and Clemson. 6-6 at best

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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    I am an optimist, but I can't help worry about the FSU game. They are well coached, have a ton of experienced talent, and they have been preparing for this game since January. If they believe that they can beat Alabama, then it will be a dog fight.

    My sense is that the winner of that game is going to the CFP. Both will likely get tripped up somewhere else during their season. But, if the game is close, I think that the loser will still make the CFP with 2 losses as long as they win their conference.

    So, as usual, winning the first game of the season isn't as important as winning the SEC. It will feel like it is a make or break game at the time, but it is not. It will simply set the tone for the rest of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNeedMe81 View Post
    Sept. 2: FSU
    Oct. 21: Tennessee
    Nov. 4: LSU
    Nov. 25: @ the barn

    Those are the game I'm not taking lightly. FSU has the power and talent to battle with Bama for 4 quarters. It's gonna come down to two things for both teams: QB play and Defense.
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    Not to turn this into a QB thread, but I think both teams chances of winning is largely tied to how much both of them may have improved from last year to now. If JH's improvements involve hitting some intermediate throws across the middle of the field and hitting the long ball I'd be shocked if we come up short in this one, especially if our running game is anywhere close to where we think it'll be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    I am an optimist, but I can't help worry about the FSU game. They are well coached, have a ton of experienced talent, and they have been preparing for this game since January. If they believe that they can beat Alabama, then it will be a dog fight.

    My sense is that the winner of that game is going to the CFP. Both will likely get tripped up somewhere else during their season. But, if the game is close, I think that the loser will still make the CFP with 2 losses as long as they win their conference.

    So, as usual, winning the first game of the season isn't as important as winning the SEC. It will feel like it is a make or break game at the time, but it is not. It will simply set the tone for the rest of the season.
    And with very good reason (s), most of which you mention. IMO. our D, while perhaps not as overwhelmingly dominant as last year, will certainly be capable of playing winning football, in this and the rest of the games on the schedule ( critical injuries aside, of course ). IMHO, the issue is finding a couple more guys that can play at a consistently high, winning level on the O line between now and then. If that happens, we have an opportunity to be really hard to handle.

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    Re: Let's Talk about 2017

    The Alabama - FSU game could make for an interesting test of the Playoff Committee later in the year.

    Whichever team loses will face a formidable schedule, yet still have a great chance at winning its conference championship.

    Thus far, any team with a second loss has been effectively eliminated from consideration.

    Will that hold if the losses were to another playoff team and a conference game, but the single conference loss didn't prevent winning the conference title?

    The Committee's nightmare would be having to choose between a conference champion 2-loss FSU or Alabama, and an undefeated or one-loss Big 12 champ.

    Strongest P5 conferences, but 2 losses vs. superior record in the weakest P5 conference that has, BTW, never made the playoff.

    I don't know what would happen....but we just might find out.
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