2017 SEC Predictions

ALA2262

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West

Alabama 12-0 (8-0)
LSU 10-2 (6-2) 1-0*
barn 9-3 (6-2) 0-1*
Texas A&M 7-5 (4-4)
Arkansas 6-6 (3-5)
Mississippi State 5-7 (2-6)
Mississippi 3-9 (0-8)


East

Florida 11-1 (8-0)
Georgia 9-3 (6-2)
South Carolina 6-6 (4-4) 1-0*
Kentucky 8-4 (4-4) 0-1*
ut 6-6 (3-5)
Vanderbilt 5-7 (2-6)
Missouri 4-8 (0-8)

* HTH tie breaker
 
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Bazza

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Looks good to me except there's been a fair amount of buzz of Mizzou having a good season with all the returning starters they will have.

Georgia too.

I got a feeling though things will end up differently than all of us thought....
 

UntouchableCrew

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Looks good to me except there's been a fair amount of buzz of Mizzou having a good season with all the returning starters they will have.

Georgia too.

I got a feeling though things will end up differently than all of us thought....
With all due respect why would returning lots of starters from a 4-8 team be good news?
 

RTR91

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With all due respect why would returning lots of starters from a 4-8 team be good news?
IIRC, they are one of two P5 teams to return 3,000 yard passer, 1000 yard rusher & 1000 yard receiver. And they have all 5 starting OL back this year.

No, that doesn't mean they are going to go from 4-8 to 9-3, but experience can be a big factor, especially when the skill guys put up those type numbers.
 

ALA2262

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IIRC, they are one of two P5 teams to return 3,000 yard passer, 1000 yard rusher & 1000 yard receiver. And they have all 5 starting OL back this year.

No, that doesn't mean they are going to go from 4-8 to 9-3, but experience can be a big factor, especially when the skill guys put up those type numbers.
But on the other side of the ball they return but 5 starters. No other teams in the SEC return fewer than 5. But that could be a good thing because the 6 that left must have been terrible. MO ranked #118 of 128 in Total Defense in 2016.
 

selmaborntidefan

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With all due respect why would returning lots of starters from a 4-8 team be good news?
With all due respect, I hope you're kidding.

Missouri is returning 15 starters. That means:
a) those guys played last year and thus gained valuable in-game experience
b) it also means that well over 1/2 the team has played together and built some camaraderie (and knows ho
to play the strengths and weaknesses of each other because of that)
c) it gives them the potential to have that many more positions when playing an opponent that they can prevail in
a head-to-head match-up against a new player
d) perhaps the reason they were 4-8 is BECAUSE they were fielding a 'young' team (I honestly don't know, I don't follow Mizzou)

Furthermore:
a) they were two plays from being 6-6 and going to a bowl game
b) this year they replace LSU (in Baton Rouge no less) with Auburn (at home) on the schedule
c) Florida might have been the division champion at 6-2, but they should have lost the LSU game and could easily have lost the Vandy game (they won, 13-6);
also, Miss State had an easier time with UMass on the road than UF did in Gainesville last year


In fact, go look at how close the East REALLY was with some of the games:

Florida 13 Vandy 6
UGA 28 Mizzou 27 (UGA hit the winning TD with 90 seconds left)
Tenn 34 UGA 31 (the double Hail Mary game)
Vandy 17 UGA 16
UGA 27 UK 24
UGA 13 Auburn 7 (only UGA TD was a pick six early in second half - yeah I know Auburn isn't in the East yet....)
Tenn 38 Florida 28 (UF was blowing the Vols out at halftime, 21-3, and it wasn't even that close)
UK 17 USCe 10
USCe 24 Tenn 21
USCe 13 Vandy 10
UK 20 Vandy 13


Vandy was 3-5 in that division and Florida three games better at 6-2. But if Vandy had only scored four more touchdowns during the season - one in each game against UF, USCe, UK, and Auburn - then Vandy would have been 7-1 and won the SEC East.

I repeat....VANDY......would have won the SEC East.

So it's a cluster of facts where you have an experienced team coming back in a notoriously weak division that they've already won twice recently. Indeed, look at how many close games McElwain has WON while Smart and Butch were LOSING most of them.......and you see that in this particular case, those returning starters might be the difference in Atlanta and Shreveport. (And by Atlanta I mean the SECCG NOT the title game folks).

Do I think Missouri wins the East? No, I don't. But they won it twice in a row in recent years so it's not impossible.
 

ALA2262

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In 2014, I picked MO to go 4-8. They went 11-3. They did, however, as I predicted, lose to Indiana. At home! :biggrin: Indiana is the one that went 4-8.
 

RollTide_HTTR

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West

Alabama 12-0 (8-0)
LSU 10-2 (6-2) 1-0*
barn 9-3 (6-2) 0-1*
Texas A&M 7-5 (4-4)
Arkansas 6-6 (3-5)
Mississippi State 5-7 (2-6)
Mississippi 3-9 (0-8)


East

Florida 11-1 (8-0)
Georgia 9-3 (6-2)
South Carolina 6-6 (4-4) 1-0*
Kentucky 8-4 (4-4) 0-1*
ut 6-6 (3-5)
Vanderbilt 5-7 (2-6)
Missouri 4-8 (0-8)

* HTH tie breaker
Man the east is terrible. I started to say that SC was too high but then realized who was below them and honestly, after Georgia and Florida it shouldn't matter much. I do think it's bold that you have Florida going 11-1, that means you have them beating either Michigan or FSU (I assume Michigan) and I'm not convinced they can win either game until I see a competent QB. Looking at schedules I could actually see a situation where Georgia is higher ranked with fewer losses but still lose the East.
 

81usaf92

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West

1. Bama
2. LSU
3. MSU
4. Arkansas
5. Auburn
6. ATm
7. Ole miss

East

1. UGA
2. USCE
3. Mizzou
4. UF
5. UT
6. Kentucky
7. Vandy
 

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West

Alabama 12-0
LSU 9-3
barn 8-4
Texas A&M 7-5 (4-4)
Arkansas 6-6 (3-5)
Mississippi State 5-7 (2-6)
Mississippi 3-9 (0-8)


East

Florida 10-2
Georgia 9-3
South Carolina 6-6
Kentucky 7-5
ut 6-6
Vanderbilt 6-6
Missouri 5-7
 

Redwood Forrest

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Ala 13-0 9-0
LSU 10-2 7-1
Aub 9-3 5-3
Miss 9-3 5-3
Tex 6-6 3-5
MSU 6-6 2-6
Ark 4-8 1-7


Ga 12-1 8-1
Fla 9-3 6-2
Tenn 8-4 4-4
SC 7-5 4-4
Kent 5-7 2-6
Mizz 5-7 1-7
Van 3-9 4-8
 

TideEngineer08

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West:

1. Alabama
2. Auburn
3. LSU
4. Arkansas
5. Texas A&M
6. MSU
7. Ole Miss

East:

1. Garbage
2. Trash
3. Refuse
4. Rubbish
5. Burning Garbage
6. Dumpster Fire
7. Sinking Landfill
 

deliveryman35

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First, I think we will have a great year. 10 wins looks very achievable, and I think Jalen will show forward progression. Having said that, with the usual schedule flips --and barring serious injuries to key players--I am predicting that the barn will win the West and Florida wins the East. Beyond that, you'll have to ask me in October.......
 

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West

Alabama 12-0 (8-0)
LSU 10-2 (6-2) 1-0*
barn 9-3 (6-2) 0-1*
Texas A&M 7-5 (4-4)
Arkansas 6-6 (3-5)
Mississippi State 5-7 (2-6)
Mississippi 3-9 (0-8)


East

Florida 11-1 (8-0)
Georgia 9-3 (6-2)
South Carolina 6-6 (4-4) 1-0*
Kentucky 8-4 (4-4) 0-1*
ut 6-6 (3-5)
Vanderbilt 5-7 (2-6)
Missouri 4-8 (0-8)

* HTH tie breaker
I think you are underestimated UGA and Kirby Smart...think they start showing something this year and the EAST is ripe for them to make a run.

Ala 13-0 9-0
LSU 10-2 7-1
Aub 9-3 5-3
Miss 9-3 5-3
Tex 6-6 3-5
MSU 6-6 2-6
Ark 4-8 1-7


Ga 12-1 8-1
Fla 9-3 6-2
Tenn 8-4 4-4
SC 7-5 4-4
Kent 5-7 2-6
Mizz 5-7 1-7
Van 3-9 4-8
I agree with your east assessment.

First, I think we will have a great year. 10 wins looks very achievable, and I think Jalen will show forward progression. Having said that, with the usual schedule flips --and barring serious injuries to key players--I am predicting that the barn will win the West and Florida wins the East. Beyond that, you'll have to ask me in October.......
Can the Barn win the west? Sure, but even if the new qb transfer lives up to the hype the rest of their team has to become much better too.

I'll give them this: they are always better when noone thinks they are a threat so I appreciate you building them up.
 

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