Yeah, that is what these camps were suppose to help but I thought it was obvious that someone would start protecting the homeland and end up hurting more kids than sat camps would ever help.
Really? Since you mentioned 1-star players in an earlier post, I presume these are the players you are referring to as marginal kids. I trust that you are aware that, to be technical about it, the 1-star rating is not really a talent rating but rather simply indicates that player has not been rated as yet? These kids could be anything from late blooming all-stars to kids that can't even play at the small high school level. In any case the reality is that Orgeron's paycheck is to some extent dependent on his success at retaining in-state talent for his own program, hence his desire to keep programs like Texas, Alabama, and others of the same ilk from siphoning off Louisiana talent, and that the satellite camps represent a threat to him. While I agree that it certainly isn't a very charitable position to take, nonetheless his motivation for attempting to protect his own turf from interlopers isn't that hard to comprehend given that he is on shaky ground employment-wise, and probably badly wants to preserve his job.I don't give a rat's backside about his stupid fence. There are marginal kids being denied opportunities here.
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Yeah, I'm sure that Cornell and Delta Sate were going to be real competition with LSU.Really? Since you mentioned 1-star players in an earlier post, I presume these are the players you are referring to as marginal kids. I trust that you are aware that, to be technical about it, the 1-star rating is not really a talent rating but rather simply indicates that player has not been rated as yet? These kids could be anything from late blooming all-stars to kids that can't even play at the small high school level. In any case the reality is that Orgeron's paycheck is to some extent dependent on his success at retaining in-state talent for his own program, hence his desire to keep programs like Texas, Alabama, and others of the same ilk from siphoning off Louisiana talent, and that the satellite camps represent a threat to him. While I agree that it certainly isn't a very charitable position to take, nonetheless his motivation for attempting to protect his own turf from interlopers isn't that hard to comprehend given that he is on shaky ground employment-wise, and probably badly wants to preserve his job.
Candidly, I suspect the Orgeron probably doesn't give a rat's backside what any off fan forum denizens think about his tactics but rather is concerned about doing whatever he believes is necessary to keep that paycheck coming in. Please forgive me if I seem cynical but I've never viewed coaches as group as being a particularly altruistic lot.
Good job solely focusing on the 1-star comment instead of the entire picture.Really? Since you mentioned 1-star players in an earlier post, I presume these are the players you are referring to as marginal kids. I trust that you are aware that, to be technical about it, the 1-star rating is not really a talent rating but rather simply indicates that player has not been rated as yet? These kids could be anything from late blooming all-stars to kids that can't even play at the small high school level. In any case the reality is that Orgeron's paycheck is to some extent dependent on his success at retaining in-state talent for his own program, hence his desire to keep programs like Texas, Alabama, and others of the same ilk from siphoning off Louisiana talent, and that the satellite camps represent a threat to him. While I agree that it certainly isn't a very charitable position to take, nonetheless his motivation for attempting to protect his own turf from interlopers isn't that hard to comprehend given that he is on shaky ground employment-wise, and probably badly wants to preserve his job.
Candidly, I suspect the Orgeron probably doesn't give a rat's backside what any off fan forum denizens think about his tactics but rather is concerned about doing whatever he believes is necessary to keep that paycheck coming in. Please forgive me if I seem cynical but I've never viewed coaches as group as being a particularly altruistic lot.
Jumping back on this with a couple of points.Really? Since you mentioned 1-star players in an earlier post, I presume these are the players you are referring to as marginal kids. I trust that you are aware that, to be technical about it, the 1-star rating is not really a talent rating but rather simply indicates that player has not been rated as yet? These kids could be anything from late blooming all-stars to kids that can't even play at the small high school level. In any case the reality is that Orgeron's paycheck is to some extent dependent on his success at retaining in-state talent for his own program, hence his desire to keep programs like Texas, Alabama, and others of the same ilk from siphoning off Louisiana talent, and that the satellite camps represent a threat to him. While I agree that it certainly isn't a very charitable position to take, nonetheless his motivation for attempting to protect his own turf from interlopers isn't that hard to comprehend given that he is on shaky ground employment-wise, and probably badly wants to preserve his job.
Candidly, I suspect the Orgeron probably doesn't give a rat's backside what any off fan forum denizens think about his tactics but rather is concerned about doing whatever he believes is necessary to keep that paycheck coming in. Please forgive me if I seem cynical but I've never viewed coaches as group as being a particularly altruistic lot.
Jumping back on this with a couple of points.
I don't expect Ed O to care what I think so that's frankly neither here not there.
While it's true that a 1* or 2* player could be a diamond in the rough - Eddie Jackson, Javier Arenas - it's also true that most of those players are who they are. Certainly Tom Herman and Major Applewhite are on the lookout for those players but the majority of those kids are, at best, hoping to play for a weak D1 school and more likely something lower. Not to mention that in a poor state like Louisiana, those kids can't just travel to camps all over the place. So under the guise of protecting his state, Orgeron has limited those kids' opportunity for exposure.
I hope this bites him, and bites him hard.
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I believe it is starting to bite him and I think it will be curious to see what comes of the recruits they begin to sign over the next 2 to 3 years. They have a high school camp later this week and I heard from several parents this past weekend at a camp that their kids were not attending the LSU camp. Some were by the kid's choice and some were of the parents decision. Even heard one parent say that there was no way his kid was playing for LSU and the family was from Louisiana. That caught my attention as these are kids in their upcoming Junior and Senior years of high school who are attending camps all over the SEC and are being recruited by SEC schools in some cases. Not sure what is going on there but it is turning some SEC recruits and their families off.
And the point about helping the kids with offers to other schools that are smaller, is very true and it helps the host school find a gem that they may not have known about. Seen that happen with my own eyes and have seen kids get their first contact with an FCS or smaller D1 school and get scholarships they otherwise would not have gotten.