Senate Healthcare Bill Released (zombied for now)

Chukker Veteran said:

Lots of people got educated at how well the state legislature can manage things when the PACT program fell through in 2008.

http://www.waff.com/story/24910311/waff-48-investigates-fulfilling-the-pact-promise

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"The stocks that we had were high risk stocks and they took the big plunge," said Patti Lambert.

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Chukker Veteran said:

You state your opinion as if it were fact.

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CharminTide said:

After years of demonizing and opposing literally everything the Democrats tried under McConnell's leadership, we now see the inescapable plight of the modern GOP: Can't work with Democrats or they'll get primaried by their rabid base. Can't work without Democrats, because they don't have the votes. And they can't just sit and do nothing, because their megadonors will stop giving money.

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CharminTide said:

After years of demonizing and opposing literally everything the Democrats tried under McConnell's leadership, we now see the inescapable plight of the modern GOP: Can't work with Democrats or they'll get primaried by their rabid base. Can't work without Democrats, because they don't have the votes. And they can't just sit and do nothing, because their megadonors will stop giving money.

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AUDub said:

Murkowski is unfettered by concerns of being primaried. She was primaried by the GOP and won as a write in LOL

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92tide said:

i read that the attempted bribe for her vote is that alaska gets to basically keep the disastrous obamacare while everything changes for the rest of the country

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Chukker Veteran said:

IMHO, only the people who are willfully blind don't understand the implication here.

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Chukker Veteran said:

IMHO, only the people who are willfully blind don't understand the implication here.

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TIDE-HSV said:

Well, generally, I favor holding matters closer to home. However, I've not only dealt with them across the table, I've worked for them as an income tax examiner. I do think some states could handle healthcare and do a good job, better than the federal government. However, as I've said many times, I'm a pragmatist, not an ideologue. I don't think Alabama's government could begin to do a decent job of healthcare. I think, just like so many other government functions here, it would become an enormous pork barrel, with the legislature and bureaucrats scrambling to see how much of the money they could score for themselves. There's a reason our state government is continually being singled out by so many different sources as being the worst in the country. They have earned the reputation...

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Chukker Veteran said:

I couldn't agree more.

I've seen a study that shows red states take more federal dollars than they pay in. The blue states are carrying the load. The very states insisting they manage their own Medicaid money have proven themselves unable to do so.

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-more-dependent-on-federal-government-2015-7

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What I would say is: Read a book. Do your research. Understand that federal requirements in Obamacare didn’t exist until just a few years ago and that the number of people denied coverage for a pre-existing condition was minuscule prior to that, and are mitigated under this legislation. Don’t assume you know what you’re talking about. And definitely don’t lecture the rest of the country from a pretentious moral high-ground based on an utter misunderstanding of your subject matter, you partisan hack.

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TIDE-HSV said:

Well, generally, I favor holding matters closer to home. However, I've not only dealt with them across the table, I've worked for them as an income tax examiner. I do think some states could handle healthcare and do a good job, better than the federal government. However, as I've said many times, I'm a pragmatist, not an ideologue. I don't think Alabama's government could begin to do a decent job of healthcare. I think, just like so many other government functions here, it would become an enormous pork barrel, with the legislature and bureaucrats scrambling to see how much of the money they could score for themselves. There's a reason our state government is continually being singled out by so many different sources as being the worst in the country. They have earned the reputation...

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TIDE-HSV said:

When it comes to Alabama, it would be no experiment at all. Everyone but the absolute ostriches would know exactly what would happen...

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Tide1986 said:

This columnist puts it fairly well:

http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/22/jimmy-kimmel-no-clue-hes-talking/#.WcUh-1xAOZ8.twitter

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