Alibaba founder has a brutal theory of how America went wrong over the past 30 years

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Eisenhower warned us and we weren't vigilant.

"In the past 30 years, America had 13 wars spending $14.2 trillion ... no matter how good your strategy is you're supposed to spend money on your own people," Ma said. "The money goes to Wall Street. Then what happened? Year 2008. The financial crisis wiped out $19.2 trillion in US income ... What if the money was spent on the Midwest of the United States, developing industry there?"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nt-wrong-over-the-past-30-years-a7821396.html
 

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Wow, that dude hits pretty close to home.


I find that I've become a nationalist. Please don't confuse nationalism with anti-immigration, anti-protecting of our interest (both domestic and abroad,) anti-working with other nation's. But if we don't put our country first, who will?

If your house is in disarray, sooner or later it's going to fall, regardless of whatever you've done elsewhere.
 

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It's tough, because the looming fear of the next Hitler always seems to be out there. And no one else seems capable of stopping the next threat. Johnson and Nixon can likely take the blame for that one. And if we had listened to our WW2 Generals, we could have ended the future Cold War in 1945.....if we had gone straight to Moscow
 

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It's tough, because the looming fear of the next Hitler always seems to be out there. And no one else seems capable of stopping the next threat. Johnson and Nixon can likely take the blame for that one. And if we had listened to our WW2 Generals, we could have ended the future Cold War in 1945.....if we had gone straight to Moscow
I don't think most people know the history or atrocities of Russia at the end of and post WW2. I've commented on Russia before in these forums, and I believe they are truly the most dangerous country on the planet and have been for nearly 100 years.
 

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I don't think most people know the history or atrocities of Russia at the end of and post WW2. I've commented on Russia before in these forums, and I believe they are truly the most dangerous country on the planet and have been for nearly 100 years.
I'd put my money on N Korea, Iran and Pakistan first.
 

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I'd put my money on N Korea, Iran and Pakistan first.
This proves my point regarding the understanding of who/what Russia is. Those countries are dangerous because of leadership, but lack a commitment from the majority of the country to the same ideals. Iran and Pakistan could be left to their own devices and never bother us. N Korea is NK, and cannot maintain any form of sustained combat without the direct support of other countries (food and fuel.)

Now take Russia, where you'd be hard pressed to find a member of that country (govt or citizen) that doesn't want the return to their former glory, especially if it involved gaining it through military might, over the US in particular.
 

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I don't think many people know that the Soviet Union, along with Germany invaded Poland in 1939. The Soviet's have been aggressors to their neighboring countries on more than one occasion.
Many would not know how supportive France and Britain was of Hitlers rise to power thinking a strong Germany would neutralize a growing communist Russia. ooops
 
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This proves my point regarding the understanding of who/what Russia is. Those countries are dangerous because of leadership, but lack a commitment from the majority of the country to the same ideals. Iran and Pakistan could be left to their own devices and never bother us. N Korea is NK, and cannot maintain any form of sustained combat without the direct support of other countries (food and fuel.)

Now take Russia, where you'd be hard pressed to find a member of that country (govt or citizen) that doesn't want the return to their former glory, especially if it involved gaining it through military might, over the US in particular.
I'd take it further. During the cold war, most Russians liked American people and the American Ideal, they did not like our government or policy.

Now, their population now has a deep contempt for us.
 

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I'd take it further. During the cold war, most Russians liked American people and the American Ideal, they did not like our government or policy.

Now, their population now has a deep contempt for us.
I'm not sure that we can know with any certainty what the average Russian on the street thinks...
 

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I'm not sure that we can know with any certainty what the average Russian on the street thinks...
The Levada Center does public opinion polling inside Russia on Russians' attitude's about a number of issues, including Russians' attitudes about Americans and US government policy.

Counterintuitively, Russians seem in some cases to be less skeptical of Russian media now than they were during the Soviet times when Russians used to joke that "there is no truth in News (Izvestiya) and not news in Truth (Pravda)."
 

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Those wars, unlike WWll, were financed by deficit spending rather than tax increases and bond sales. Dumb as Hades. Nobody paid except the young service men with their blood.

How did America pay for World War II? - Marginal REVOLUTION

marginalrevolution.com/.../2010/09/how-did-american-pay-for-world-war-ii.htmlSep 7, 2010 - To a degree that will surprise many, the US funded its World War II effort largely by raising taxes and tapping into Americans' personal savings. ... During the War, Americans purchased approximately $186 billion worth of war bonds, accounting for nearly three quarters of total federal spending from 1941-1945.
 

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Could we be non-PC enough to actually point the finger at the correct party for the 2008 financial crisis. I'll give you a hint, our most famous cigar aficionado.
 

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