Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)

IM4UA · Oct 17, 2018

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Redwood Forrest said:
You know the Goobers could never take advantage of Bama going through the dark ages. Somehow they managed to blow it on the grand scale. True they had a winning streak against us but they did not take over college football. They blew it.

For sure. It’s a program and fan base that places a win over Alabama above winning a championship. The mindset is bizarre, yet it exists. Their head coaches even obtain more contract negotiating power with an Alabama win than with a championship win/appearance. Odd priorities.

theshow4jsu_13 · Oct 17, 2018

Redwood Forrest said:
I agree that Gus is not very smart when it comes to leadership. Honestly, he is a poor leader. That is obvious and I knew that in his second year when things started going "not his way."

Today he parroted the "we have to improve" and "we have to get better" while saying "we are going to finish strong." So, basically he is saying the same thing he said before the Tennessee debacle, but today he added "Championship hopes are gone but we are playing for each other and the fans."

Champions of Life 2.0

CB4 · Oct 17, 2018

If they drop this game Saturday, things will go down hill real fast there. And I'm not going to be surprised if some of the PTB begin to pressure Greene to start a conversation with Sexton about a negotiated buyout.

uafan4life · Oct 17, 2018

CB4 said:
If they drop this game Saturday, things will go down hill real fast there. And I'm not going to be surprised if some of the PTB begin to pressure Greene to start a conversation with Sexton about a negotiated buyout.

You mean one different than the one they negotiated a few months ago??? :biggrin2:

techster79 · Oct 17, 2018

I heard on Finebaum that the buyout will be 15 million in a few weeks and they can pay that out over years so the sticker shock may not be an issue that much longer. It also sounded like they could go after Troy's coach. I think they should keep Gus till Saban retires. Who are they going to get to put up with the PTB and be in Saban's backyard?

BamaMan09 · Oct 17, 2018

techster79 said:
I heard on Finebaum that the buyout will be 15 million in a few weeks and they can pay that out over years so the sticker shock may not be an issue that much longer. It also sounded like they could go after Troy's coach. I think they should keep Gus till Saban retires. Who are they going to get to put up with the PTB and be in Saban's backyard?

Neal Brown is actually a terrific young coach and one that would make a lot of sense considering he's right down the road in Auburn Jr. (Troy).

Tideflyer · Oct 17, 2018

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IM4UA said:
For sure. It’s a program and fan base that places a win over Alabama above winning a championship. The mindset is bizarre, yet it exists. Their head coaches even obtain more contract negotiating power with an Alabama win than with a championship win/appearance. Odd priorities.

Hasn`t it always been that way? My Auburn buddies ( practically all my high school friends/team mates who went to college went to Auburn ) would never openly admit it. I think as much as anything they look at it as a social strata thing, the Auburn people being down home, working class " fambly " types vs. the snooty, elitist, upper crust, society driven snobs. I do admit, I tread a little lightly during these times that are hard on them. In all honesty, I value those friendships far more than some relatively silly college rivalry. Plus, I`ve always felt that the only thing worse than a whiny loser is a poor winner. As Coach used to say, " Act like you`ve been there before ".

KrAzY3 · Oct 17, 2018

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IM4UA said:
For sure. It’s a program and fan base that places a win over Alabama above winning a championship. The mindset is bizarre, yet it exists.

Think about how well Saban played them.

Lose to Auburn, don't have to go to the SECCG, win a championship and Gus gets an extension. Brilliant!

B1GTide · Oct 17, 2018

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Let's be fair - programs like Alabama can truly say that it is all about national championships, but that is only because you have had so much success. For most programs, it is about state, division or conference championships. National championships are the dream, not the expectation.

RTR91 · Oct 17, 2018

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techster79 said:
I heard on Finebaum that the buyout will be 15 million in a few weeks and they can pay that out over years so the sticker shock may not be an issue that much longer. It also sounded like they could go after Troy's coach. I think they should keep Gus till Saban retires. Who are they going to get to put up with the PTB and be in Saban's backyard?

Who said that on PF? Everything I've heard or read goes along these lines.

B1GTide said:
Let's be fair - programs like Alabama can truly say that it is all about national championships, but that is only because you have had so much success. For most programs, it is about state, division or conference championships. National championships are the dream, not the expectation.

It's that fine line of being aware of your place in the pecking order and still having high-ish expectations.

sanjosecrimson · Oct 17, 2018

BamaInBham said:
Only because Bama was crippled by severe sanctions. It's a miracle Bama could win any vs them at that time. And they never could pull away in any of their wins. They just had such superior talent most of the time that Bama could not overcome, though they played with great heart.

Agreed. during the 6 game winning streak, auburn never beat Bama by more than 10 points!!!!!

81usaf92 · Oct 17, 2018

RTR91 said:
Who said that on PF? Everything I've heard or read goes along these lines.

It's that fine line of being aware of your place in the pecking order and still having high-ish expectations.

The poster is probably referring to Marcelo’s comments saying that money won’t be the issue.

techster79 · Oct 17, 2018

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RTR91 said:
Who said that on PF? Everything I've heard or read goes along these lines.

Marcello said:

“From what I’ve been told, there’s not much concern there when it comes to money,” Marcello said. “They’ll have it. I don’t believe it’ll come necessarily completely from boosters or even half of it will come from boosters. I think some will be willing to help pay for it, but based off what I’ve heard the money issue would not be that big of a hurdle for them to climb. My belief is, based on reading the contract, is that within a couple of months or within a month, they would owe Gus Malzahn $15 million in one sum total, and then he would be paid over the next four years of the contract to spread it out. It isn’t like it’s some big $31 million sum they have to give him.”

Bodhisattva · Oct 17, 2018

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Many people mark the passing of time with a calendar.

Others via the changing seasons.

Bama fans do so with the coaching turnover at rival programs.

RTR91 · Oct 17, 2018

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techster79 said:
Marcello said:

“From what I’ve been told, there’s not much concern there when it comes to money,” Marcello said. “They’ll have it. I don’t believe it’ll come necessarily completely from boosters or even half of it will come from boosters. I think some will be willing to help pay for it, but based off what I’ve heard the money issue would not be that big of a hurdle for them to climb. My belief is, based on reading the contract, is that within a couple of months or within a month, they would owe Gus Malzahn $15 million in one sum total, and then he would be paid over the next four years of the contract to spread it out. It isn’t like it’s some big $31 million sum they have to give him.”

That's not how your original post came across:

I heard on Finebaum that the buyout will be 15 million in a few weeks and they can pay that out over years so the sticker shock may not be an issue that much longer.

Chechem · Oct 17, 2018

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techster79 said:
Marcello said:

“From what I’ve been told, there’s not much concern there when it comes to money,” Marcello said. “They’ll have it. I don’t believe it’ll come necessarily completely from boosters or even half of it will come from boosters. I think some will be willing to help pay for it, but based off what I’ve heard the money issue would not be that big of a hurdle for them to climb. My belief is, based on reading the contract, is that within a couple of months or within a month, they would owe Gus Malzahn $15 million in one sum total, and then he would be paid over the next four years of the contract to spread it out. It isn’t like it’s some big $31 million sum they have to give him.”

BUT, then the Boog nation has to raise enough money to attract Jimbo Fisher, or whoever else they DREAM of getting. That's another $10M or so. They're in deep crap. And they deserve it!

crimsonaudio · Oct 17, 2018

techster79 said:
I heard on Finebaum that the buyout will be 15 million in a few weeks and they can pay that out over years so the sticker shock may not be an issue that much longer.

Incorrect.

https://herosports.com/college-football/gus-malzahn-buyout-2018-2019-ahah

81usaf92 · Oct 17, 2018

crimsonaudio said:
Incorrect.

https://herosports.com/college-football/gus-malzahn-buyout-2018-2019-ahah

That is insane

TitleWave · Oct 17, 2018

81usaf92 said:
That is insane

Nearest optimum outcome would be a repeat of 2017 for 'Bama and All Bran...in 2022. When, in the rich atmosphere of the winning lockerroom after vanquishing eventual (inevitable) National Champion Alabama, Malzahn would get a big hug from All Bran president Junior Samples Jr., after which Malzahn would spin Junior Jr. around and sign another 7-year contract extension pressing agin' one of Junior Jr.'s overall straps...

BamaMoon · Oct 17, 2018

Tide&True said:
It amazes me that anyone would want to coach there with such a good ol’ boy network. Money talks I guess but I wouldn’t want to be anybody’s puppet.

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There will always be someone willing to put up with it if they are getting millions each year to do so.

But their issue is who do they replace him with? If he makes 7 million each year are they are going to be able to hire someone else for 2 or 3 million? If they go after a "name" they'd probably have to be looking at 7-10 a year. So if they can shake that much money in someone's face they'll come even if they are under Pat Dyes thumb.

You'd think by now someone would have said, "Boys, we need to do what Bama did with Saban. Hire a proven guy, get out of his way and let him run the show." That's about the only thing that might ever get them out of this cycle they are in. I personally hope they never figure it out!

Tideflyer said:
Hasn`t it always been that way? My Auburn buddies ( practically all my high school friends/team mates who went to college went to Auburn ) would never openly admit it. I think as much as anything they look at it as a social strata thing, the Auburn people being down home, working class " fambly " types vs. the snooty, elitist, upper crust, society driven snobs. I do admit, I tread a little lightly during these times that are hard on them. In all honesty, I value those friendships far more than some relatively silly college rivalry. Plus, I`ve always felt that the only thing worse than a whiny loser is a poor winner. As Coach used to say, " Act like you`ve been there before ".

Very well said. I don't like Auburn at all, but I've got great friends who are big fans of theirs and I value their friendship over fandom. I do enjoy watching Auburn lose and will always do so but I plan to never be a jerk to my friends about their team losing.

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