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PitMaster said:
I believe only the government and google can legally invade cellular privacy...
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You got that right. There are various statutes dealing with certain types of data, when using governmental computers, etc., but there's only one I know of which comes close that that's the statute against surveillance in a "private place." That statute has this qualifier - "but such term does not include a place to which the public or a substantial group of the public has access." There is a tort (civil action) for invasion of privacy in Alabama. However, if you leave a non passworded cell around where it can be recorded, I'm afraid you'd have a hard time building a case there - just no reasonable expectation of privacy...
 
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You got that right. There are various statutes dealing with certain types of data, when using governmental computers, etc., but there's only one I know of which comes close that that's the statute against surveillance in a "private place." That statute has this qualifier - "but such term does not include a place to which the public or a substantial group of the public has access." There is a tort (civil action) for invasion of privacy in Alabama. However, if you leave a non passworded cell around where it can be recorded, I'm afraid you'd have a hard time building a case there - just no reasonable expectation of privacy...
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Isn't this essentially what Roy Adams used in defense of what was posted from his computer during one of his hot tub parties.
 
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AUDub said:
Two things:

1) IANAL

2) The laws are nebulous and radically different base on locale.

That being said, I have heard of folks locked in child custody battles, divorces etc. getting nailed for accessing e-mail, social media accounts and the like without permission.
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It's not that simple. The laws are drawn narrowly and it's not the "without permission." They all involved trespass into a private space. You are applying them too generally. However, there is a brand new statute which just became effective which affects the "distribution of a private image." Obviously, it's aimed at "revenge porn." However, a photograph was taken of a text, so could this be "distribution of an image?" So stay tuned... :)
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
It's not that simple. The laws are drawn narrowly and it's not the "without permission." They all involved trespass into a private space. You are applying them too generally. However, there is a brand new statute which just became effective which affects the "distribution of a private image." Obviously, it's aimed at "revenge porn." However, a photograph was taken of a text, so could this be "distribution of an image?" So stay tuned... :)
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Well, answer is "no." The bill is pretty specific and qualifies narrowly what will fit the definition...
 
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I'm not an attorney (nor do I play on television) but it would seem to me there must be some questions for the Athletic Department and the school administration in terms of when was there a reason to believe there were issues with sexual harassment and Title IX? We know that Corey Myers was at the center of this. Was there any questions from the athletic department surrounding Corey's sudden resignation in August of 2016 and reinstatement two weeks later? And the anonymous complaints filed by members of the team to the athletic department. Was any action taken as a result of those complaints and is there a record of them and the resulting actions? And when Corey stepped down mid season, why wasn't there (according to Jay Jacobs) an investigation? And has anyone asked why would someone from Auburn Undercover ask the "investigation" question if someone didn't have some inkling of some kind of issue?

I can't speak for Title IX but I do know that in the our corporate structure, all sexual harassment complaints, anonymous or not, are taken very seriously and vetted to nth degree.

This is a really smelly kettle of fish.
 
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CB4 said:
I'm not an attorney (nor do I play on television) but it would seem to me there must be some questions for the Athletic Department and the school administration in terms of when was there a reason to believe there were issues with sexual harassment and Title IX? We know that Corey Myers was at the center of this. Was there any questions from the athletic department surrounding Corey's sudden resignation in August of 2016 and reinstatement two weeks later? And the anonymous complaints filed by members of the team to the athletic department. Was any action taken as a result of those complaints and is there a record of them and the resulting actions? And when Corey stepped down mid season, why wasn't there (according to Jay Jacobs) an investigation? And has anyone asked why would someone from Auburn Undercover ask the "investigation" question if someone didn't have some inkling of some kind of issue?

I can't speak for Title IX but I do know that in the our corporate structure, all sexual harassment complaints, anonymous or not, are taken very seriously and vetted to nth degree.

This is a really smelly kettle of fish.
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These are all very good points. The discussion above about privacy revolved around AU's attempt to use the very real federal and state student privacy laws, which are not there for AU to hide behind. The point about the student-athlete's right to privacy was irrelevant and raised as a "look a pony" distraction. All of the questions you raised will have to be answered by Auburn...
 
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Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)

I had a nightmare that the Barn got busted for Title IX violations, barely avoided losing academic accreditation, but the AD and every one in the AU athletic dept administration was canned, which made the nightmare worse. Worse you say? How can that be? Think of how difficult it's going to be to find such a doofus acting and doofus looking (come on, he looks like his family tree never forked) AD who bumbles through lies as easily as he does.

Then I woke up, realized that hey, it's the barn and they will get some Buffon / hack who is "all in" to take over, thus thwarting any chance to make sound decisions.

Rolled over, went back to sleep, all is good.


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Re: Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)

I started my day checking the College Football headlines at Al dotcom. Ten of the first eleven stories were Auburn. Anyone surprised? Business as usual. No, not mad. In fact I think it funny they are so obvious while claiming fairness.
 
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Redwood Forrest said:
I started my day checking the College Football headlines at Al dotcom. Ten of the first eleven stories were Auburn. Anyone surprised? Business as usual. No, not mad. In fact I think it funny they are so obvious while claiming fairness.
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Somebody has to play the "fair and balanced" part for Awbarn.
 
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You're not dense. Just too young to have been around in '67.

The Prisoner

Anything that weird could have only been made in the 60s.

After resigning, a secret agent is abducted and taken to what looks like an idyllic village, but is really a bizarre prison. His warders demand information. He gives them nothing, but only tries to escape.
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To say it is "Kafkaesque" is an understatement.

Photo is that of Patrick McGoohan, who starred and created the series.

Better known for being in several episodes of Columbo, the warden in Escape from Alcatraz, and the bad guy in Silver Streak.

The Simpsons parodied it in a few episodes.
 
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You're not dense. Just too young to have been around in '67.

The Prisoner

Anything that weird could have only been made in the 60s.



To say it is "Kafkaesque" is an understatement.

Photo is that of Patrick McGoohan, who starred and created the series.

Better known for being in several episodes of Columbo, the warden in Escape from Alcatraz, and the bad guy in Silver Streak.

The Simpsons parodied it in a few episodes.
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It was a great TV series. Very British. Very '60s.

Just don't be unmutual.
 
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Word now is that Phillip "Baghdad Bob" Marshall is saying nothing will happen with Jacobs or the Assistant AD because they followed "protocol".

Plus the expectation that LF&W will ride in to rescue.
 
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CB4 said:
Word now is that Phillip "Baghdad Bob" Marshall is saying nothing will happen with Jacobs or the Assistant AD because they followed "protocol".

Plus the expectation that LF&W will ride in to rescue.
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Ah - the Paterno Defense...
 
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