Ukrainian Tank Crew video "Give Me Shelter"

Tidewater · Aug 14, 2017

One thing shared across cultures with young people these days.
Give a group of young Ukrainians a obsolete tank, a smartphone and a music track and they'll make a statement to the powers that be that they need more modern equipment. I could see American kids doing something like this.

Here is a web page explaining more.

Bazza · Aug 14, 2017

That is way cool, Tidewater.........way cool.......

I did a landscape project for a couple...he was Russian and she was Ukrainian. That Ukrainian accent of hers was a real turn on, I must admit. She was cute too. I don't mess around with married women but I told myself...if they ever broke up.....

Different customs...after the project was finished, they invited me inside and we drank shots of Grey Goose and they had some kind of appetizer on crackers that I can't remember the name of - the vodka of course was great but the appetizer....not so much. An acquired taste I'm sure....

Those Ukrainians.....they remind me of Australians. Hard at work and hard at play!

AlexanderFan · Aug 14, 2017

My younger brother had a video of night exercises with the Abrams out west with "The Unforgiven II" as the soundtrack. Both are equally impressive.

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Tidewater · Aug 14, 2017

AlexanderFan said:
My younger brother had a video of night exercises with the Abrams out west with "The Unforgiven II" as the soundtrack. Both are equally impressive.

It would be cool to watch it.
In the Ukrainians' case, the T-64 entered production in 1964, so these tanks are a bit long in the tooth.
The Ukrainian government is fighting a war. They are producing a newer tank (the T-84), but the Ukrainian army won't get their hands on it until the factory has fulfilled an order for T-84s from Thailand. I get business is business, but Ukraine is at war.

Displaced Bama Fan · Aug 14, 2017

Tidewater said:
It would be cool to watch it.
In the Ukrainians' case, the T-64 entered production in 1964, so these tanks are a bit long in the tooth.
The Ukrainian government is fighting a war. They are producing a newer tank (the T-84), but the Ukrainian army won't get their hands on it until the factory has fulfilled an order for T-84s from Thailand. I get business is business, but Ukraine is at war.

Gotta fund it some how.

TIDE-HSV · Aug 14, 2017

Bazza said:
That is way cool, Tidewater.........way cool.......

I did a landscape project for a couple...he was Russian and she was Ukrainian. That Ukrainian accent of hers was a real turn on, I must admit. She was cute too. I don't mess around with married women but I told myself...if they ever broke up.....

Different customs...after the project was finished, they invited me inside and we drank shots of Grey Goose and they had some kind of appetizer on crackers that I can't remember the name of - the vodka of course was great but the appetizer....not so much. An acquired taste I'm sure....

Those Ukrainians.....they remind me of Australians. Hard at work and hard at play!

Yet the Russians call them "lazy," as they do the Poles...

AlexanderFan · Aug 14, 2017

I know where they can find a whole bunch of Abrams. Anniston Army Depot. We pass them every day. Probably 150 or so just parked.

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Bazza · Aug 14, 2017

TIDE-HSV said:
Yet the Russians call them "lazy," as they do the Poles...

The green eyed monster at work.....

Displaced Bama Fan · Aug 14, 2017

AlexanderFan said:
I know where they can find a whole bunch of Abrams. Anniston Army Depot. We pass them every day. Probably 150 or so just parked.

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Wouldn't that be a fun drive down I-10 in Houston around 7:00 am? I would advise everyone to exist their vehicles as I come barreling down the interstate, however.

Elefantman · Aug 15, 2017

Displaced Bama Fan said:
Wouldn't that be a fun drive down I-10 in Houston around 7:00 am? I would advise everyone to exist their vehicles as I come barreling down the interstate, however.

Crushing cars and running over people in a tank is not a terrorist act if you are doing it because you are late for work.

RammerJammer14 · Aug 15, 2017

AlexanderFan said:
I know where they can find a whole bunch of Abrams. Anniston Army Depot. We pass them every day. Probably 150 or so just parked.
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Lol, I doubt the Guard wants to pay for the fuel to do much more than service those things once a month and play with them over the summer.

crimsonaudio · Aug 15, 2017

Tidewater said:
It would be cool to watch it.
In the Ukrainians' case, the T-64 entered production in 1964, so these tanks are a bit long in the tooth.
The Ukrainian government is fighting a war. They are producing a newer tank (the T-84), but the Ukrainian army won't get their hands on it until the factory has fulfilled an order for T-84s from Thailand. I get business is business, but Ukraine is at war.

Considering the way US tanks completely outclassed the T-72 25 years ago, I can only imagine what it's like trying to fight in something even less capable...

Displaced Bama Fan · Aug 15, 2017

Elefantman said:
Crushing cars and running over people in a tank is not a terrorist act if you are doing it because you are late for work.

I always wanted a rocket launcher on the top of my Suburban so I could blow up the morons in the left lane who were driving slower than the rest of traffic.

RammerJammer14 · Aug 16, 2017

crimsonaudio said:
Considering the way US tanks completely outclassed the T-72 25 years ago, I can only imagine what it's like trying to fight in something even less capable...

From what I understand, the T-64 and T-72 are sister tanks, they were both developed and produced nearly simultaneously. The Soviets tended to produce two tank models at once- one that introduced new gear, and another that was cheaper and easier to produce. It also kept multiple tank factories open for employment purposes. Anyways. The T-64 was the concept-prover with more advanced, 1st generation technology such as the auto-loader, ceramic armor, and a bigger gun. It was designated for spearhead tank divisions. The T-72 was the cheaper, more reliable, easier to produce model and as such became the more-numerous and most exported tank. Unlike the T-64 however, it was designated as infantry support in the Motor Rifle divisions.

RammerJammer14 · Aug 16, 2017

Displaced Bama Fan said:
I always wanted a rocket launcher on the top of my Suburban so I could blow up the morons in the left lane who were driving slower than the rest of traffic.

When I was a kid my dad used to tell me that the cigarette lighter in the car was actually a hidden missile button and we would "blow up" all the idiot drivers in our way. I'd spot the cars and he'd hit the button.

Elefantman · Aug 17, 2017

RammerJammer14 said:
When I was a kid my dad used to tell me that the cigarette lighter in the car was actually a hidden missile button and we would "blow up" all the idiot drivers in our way. I'd spot the cars and he'd hit the button.

Is that option still available?

Tidewater · Aug 17, 2017

RammerJammer14 said:
From what I understand, the T-64 and T-72 are sister tanks, they were both developed and produced nearly simultaneously. The Soviets tended to produce two tank models at once- one that introduced new gear, and another that was cheaper and easier to produce. It also kept multiple tank factories open for employment purposes. Anyways. The T-64 was the concept-prover with more advanced, 1st generation technology such as the auto-loader, ceramic armor, and a bigger gun. It was designated for spearhead tank divisions. The T-72 was the cheaper, more reliable, easier to produce model and as such became the more-numerous and most exported tank. Unlike the T-64 however, it was designated as infantry support in the Motor Rifle divisions.

I think the only reason the Ukrainians still produce the T-64 is that the tank factory in Kharkov was producing T-64s when the Soviet Union fell apart. Retooling that factory would have been too expensive, so they left it be.

crimsonaudio · Aug 17, 2017

RammerJammer14 said:
From what I understand, the T-64 and T-72 are sister tanks, they were both developed and produced nearly simultaneously. The Soviets tended to produce two tank models at once- one that introduced new gear, and another that was cheaper and easier to produce. It also kept multiple tank factories open for employment purposes. Anyways. The T-64 was the concept-prover with more advanced, 1st generation technology such as the auto-loader, ceramic armor, and a bigger gun. It was designated for spearhead tank divisions. The T-72 was the cheaper, more reliable, easier to produce model and as such became the more-numerous and most exported tank. Unlike the T-64 however, it was designated as infantry support in the Motor Rifle divisions.

My understanding is that they stopped developing the T64 years ago while the T72 has continued to receive upgrades even into this decade. But yah, the T64 was the superior platform, thanks for reminding me - I had forgotten the T64 was the basis for the design of the T80.

Two excuses:
1- I'm not as hip as some on Soviet era armor, and
2- I'm old.

CullmanTide · Aug 18, 2017

Tidewater said:
One thing shared across cultures with young people these days.
Give a group of young Ukrainians a obsolete tank, a smartphone and a music track and they'll make a statement to the powers that be that they need more modern equipment. I could see American kids doing something like this.

Here is a web page explaining more.

That's one of the best openings to any rock song!

Ukrainian Tank Crew video "Give Me Shelter"

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