Like Frank Solich who played and coached at Nebraska and was fired with a 59-16 record.Maybe this will show all those folks in Nebraska that when you have a coach averaging 9-10 wins a season you should be happy because it could always be worse.
Like Frank Solich who played and coached at Nebraska and was fired with a 59-16 record.Maybe this will show all those folks in Nebraska that when you have a coach averaging 9-10 wins a season you should be happy because it could always be worse.
If you heard 1/10 of the back chatter that was involved with Pelini then you'd be shocked that he waited as long as he did to blow up. The biggest two problems with the Nebraska job is 1) bad instate recruiting and 2) the access that the average fan has to the head coach. The latter got Pelini big time from folks constantly coming into his office asking him about Black shirts, who the qb was, and autographs just because they knew the son of a member of the BOT.Pellini had to go, he was a walking, talking time bomb, but hiring Mike Riley is still a head scratcher. Riley was a decent coach for Oregon State whose expectations are about like vanderbilt's, but Eichorst obviously made a bad decision and is now paying the price.
IMO, Nebraska is one of those programs that would probably be better off with a former player or coach as the HC due to the uniqueness of the state and school and selling the program to out of state recruits. If Riley is let go then the new AD better make a good hire or his tenure will be brief also.
Nebraska's rise to prominence is one of the most insane accidents in the history of any sport.What was the loophole?
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That is not funny bahahahahahaha yeah it is, Ms. Terry loves her some Bama, her next move will be to the Georgia lake house, you can bank that.I heard Miss Terry was spotted looking at houses in Lincoln.
I always felt different is good. Not only do you not go after the same type players, but most teams have adapted to new style. The ole run and pound wears em down. More teams have troubles with the option GA TECH ran, as they were the last to run it. So you did not see it much. Imagine our team and talent running option............ OH LORD we would kill for a yr or 2 then everyone would adapt as always.What is also interesting is I find a correlation in the fall of the NE program and the rise of the Whisky program. They simply made a mistake moving away from power running football and going to a spread concept because now they now are competing literally with every other program in their geographic region for the same type player.
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The problem is more that Mizzou went to the SEC, and Nebraska abandoned Oklahoma and Texas. Those 3 states made up the bulk of Nebraska's recruiting base.What is also interesting is I find a correlation in the fall of the NE program and the rise of the Whisky program. They simply made a mistake moving away from power running football and going to a spread concept because now they now are competing literally with every other program in their geographic region for the same type player.
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My guess is they won't get anything better than Pelini until the Osborne generation either dies out or is too old to make 45 minute trips to Lincoln because any coach worth anything would end the VIP access to the program. I lived in Nebraska for 6 years (Pelini era) and I can tell you for a fact that the scene from Friday Night Lights where fans can flood the coach's office is basically what happens in Nebraska. So first and foremost that practice has to end otherwise they are going to be in the same crap over and over. That's why when the majority on this board was predicting Bert taking the job when it came open I said he would be an idiot if he took it. I would say Vandy is a far better job right now than Nebraska in terms of job security and stress for an up and coming coach or an established coach just trying something new. Riley was a fool for taking that particular job if he really believed that there was some kinda advantage in boosting his legacy.My problem with Nebraska hiring Mike Riley was that lowered the bar. Mike Riley should be considered by Iowa State, Kansas, Minnesota and Iowa. In the same vein Tennessee continued lowering the bar with Blotch Jones. Jones should have been on the radar of Kentucky, Missouri, Vandy and Miss St.
If you are going to pretend to be "a player" you should hire like "a player", not hire from the bottom feeder pool.
Riley had a pretty amazing start to his coaching career, and was one of the most respected young coaches in the game. He won championships in the CFL and eventually got a shot as a head coach in the NFL. But I agree that the hiring at Nebraska at this point in his career just didn't make sense. His last 4-5 years at Oregon State did not go well. What did he do at Oregon State that made the powers that be at Nebraska think that he was the answer? He is now in his mid-60s, so it's not like he is someone that they are grooming for better things. Maybe they just wanted a "nice guy" to counter the Pelini years?My problem with Nebraska hiring Mike Riley was that lowered the bar. Mike Riley should be considered by Iowa State, Kansas, Minnesota and Iowa. In the same vein Tennessee continued lowering the bar with Blotch Jones. Jones should have been on the radar of Kentucky, Missouri, Vandy and Miss St.
If you are going to pretend to be "a player" you should hire like "a player", not hire from the bottom feeder pool.
Yes and no. They wanted Herman, Kelly, and Bielma. Herman was waiting on a Texas job, and Kelly is waiting on a big splash job. So that left Bielma. Bielma is big on paying his staff and used the Nebraska job to do it, but probably had no real interest to do it for obvious reasons.Maybe they just wanted a "nice guy" to counter the Pelini years?
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Solich is an excellent coach and perfect example of the old saying that you don't want to be the guy who replaces the man, you want to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the man.Like Frank Solich who played and coached at Nebraska and was fired with a 59-16 record.
Bill Callhan disputes this assessment.....Solich is an excellent coach and perfect example of the old saying that you don't want to be the guy who replaces the man, you want to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the man.
As does Bill Curry.Bill Callhan disputes this assessment.....
In the B1G, Nebraska is PurdueRiley had a pretty amazing start to his coaching career, and was one of the most respected young coaches in the game. He won championships in the CFL and eventually got a shot as a head coach in the NFL. But I agree that the hiring at Nebraska at this point in his career just didn't make sense. His last 4-5 years at Oregon State did not go well. What did he do at Oregon State that made the powers that be at Nebraska think that he was the answer? He is now in his mid-60s, so it's not like he is someone that they are grooming for better things. Maybe they just wanted a "nice guy" to counter the Pelini years?
In the B1G, Riley belongs at Purdue, not at Nebraska.
But Purdue is satisfied being the Vandy of the B1G. Great school, great atmosphere, but winning is not really a priority. Nebraska wants to win. In that respect, they are not Purdue.In the B1G, Nebraska is Purdue
Of course. But I would make the point that they probably won't ever be much more than that in the B1G. Where is their recruiting base? Traditionally it has been Texas and California. I'm talking about for difference maker recruits. They left that behind when they left the Big 12. Now they are routinely playing in the upper midwest. I just don't see how they are ever going to get their recruiting back in shape. The great recruiters aren't going to take the job because of how difficult it is to get recruits to come there. At least with a place like Tennessee, they aren't far removed from Georgia/Florida/the Carolinas and they routinely play in those states. There is some hope there. I think Nebraska shot its foot off to spite its face by leaving the Big 12 for the B1G, even if it brought them a lot more money and stability. As a big time football program, I am afraid they are done.But Purdue is satisfied being the Vandy of the B1G. Great school, great atmosphere, but winning is not really a priority. Nebraska wants to win. In that respect, they are not Purdue.
Yep - I understand why they left the Big 12 (Texas), but it really has killed their recruiting.Of course. But I would make the point that they probably won't ever be much more than that in the B1G. Where is their recruiting base? Traditionally it has been Texas and California. I'm talking about for difference maker recruits. They left that behind when they left the Big 12. Now they are routinely playing in the upper midwest. I just don't see how they are ever going to get their recruiting back in shape. The great recruiters aren't going to take the job because of how difficult it is to get recruits to come there. At least with a place like Tennessee, they aren't far removed from Georgia/Florida/the Carolinas and they routinely play in those states. There is some hope there. I think Nebraska shot its foot off to spite its face by leaving the Big 12 for the B1G, even if it brought them a lot more money and stability. As a big time football program, I am afraid they are done.
And it's serves them right. Mizzou wanted that spot first, but had a 1 year buyout. So cocky cornshuckers decided on the move.Yep - I understand why they left the Big 12 (Texas), but it really has killed their recruiting.