Mizzou is a B1G school in every way other than actual conference affiliation. They are a Midwestern school. Nebraska and Mizzou should really get together and try to arrange a deal to swap conferences, though I am not sure that the SEC wants either.
Nebraska Fires AD Shawn Eichost
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Nebraska would never do it because they would be around 7th or 8th in the pecking order in the SEC.
Missouri is a better state for the SEC than Nebraska is. There's nothing appealing about Nebraska...
The SEC got the better out of the two in terms of markets and recruiting. The only thing Nebraska has to offer is some baseball talent.
Well with all due respect, Tom Osborne did actually successfully replace Bob Devaney as "The Man".
Well, sort of......but they were restless for many years up until that final few years when he finally won titles.
And wasn't Devaney the AD while Osborne was coach?
That gave Tom some cover he wouldn't have had otherwise.
Since 2004, Nebraska has lost at least 4 or more games every season. I don't even understand why they think Wisconsin is a rival. They have only played 11 times. If anything, Iowa (46 meetings) and Minnesota (57 meetings) would be their main B1G rivals.
Yes he was their AD (seemingly more of a figurehead in the later years IMO) until 1993. Also I've done a lot of research and everything seems to go back into "Prop 48". I still wonder if Osborne had stayed around another 5 years if he could have won another NC.
They consider Wisconsin a rival because their idiot fans made it one. It mostly revolves around the fact that their first B1G game was Wisconsin. But Wisconsin never felt like it is a rivalry even though there is a trophy involved. The ironic thing is that Iowa truly considers Nebraska a rival but Nebraska more considers them how Michigan considers MSU.
To be fair nebraskas recruiting is mostly hurt due to the school being located in nebraska.
Yeah the "Freedom Trophy". Maybe because they both have similar colors, Nebraska sees Wisconsin as their new OU.
Well dozens of other colleges are getting the players now that would have gone to Nebraska 20-30 years ago.
There was day when the military schools were a big deal on the national scene. Nebraska was a big deal too. Those ships have sailed.
Yeah he's right, and you're right too. They are hurt by being in a state with very few legit D1 prospects, and the closest states with potential recruiting grounds are a long ways away. So it helped when they played in Texas a good bit, by virtue of their Big 12 membership. But as others have mentioned, the whole Prop 48 was truly what gave them the ability to be an elite program for so long. They got a lot of guys out of Florida, California, and Texas that couldn't get enrolled at other places. When they lost that, they slowly began to fade away. And I do mean slowly, as they did win one NC and still competed at a pretty high level after joining the Big 12 until around 2002 or so.
But now, they regularly play in Iowa/Minnesota/Wisconsin. All states with little more talent than Nebraska has. They are in the wrong side of the Big Ten, as far as recruiting goes. The majority of talent that exists in the B1G footprint lives in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. I guess New Jersey counts as well due to Rutgers.
Is Nebraska still considered a blue blood program by the college football world? I read an article over the summer that said Nebraska is still a blue blood program but I find that hard to believe when they haven't won a conference championship in almost 20 years. I understand all programs have their ups and downs but it looks this the current state of Nebraska football is not a down period but has become the norm..
Sure, as is Notre Dame. They are on the cusp of becoming totally irrelevant, but I still consider them a blue blood and think that the sport would be well served by having them rise back to prominence again.
Notre Dame had an undefeated season and played in the NC game in 2012. Even though they got obliterated by us that's more than Nebraska's done in the past 20 years. How many years does a team have to be irrelevant to no longer be considered a blue blood program? I think most people feel like if Notre Dame hired the right coach they could right back into national title contention fairly quickly. I don't think anyone feels that way about Nebraska..
I would remind you that Alabama was considered to be irrelevant nationally before the Saban hire.
Disagree there. We won the SEC championship in 1999, went 10-3 in 2002 and 10-2 in 2005. Those seasons in 2002 and 2005 didn't end in championships but we were definitely relevant during that time period both inter conference and nationally. I'm by no means saying that Alabama had a great program in the early 2000s pre-Saban but we were nationally relevant at times. Nebraska has lost 4 or more games for 13 straight years and 18 years without a conference title. To me they are no longer a blue blood but I've read articles that agree with your viewpoint so I guess it depends on how each person defines it..
I am not saying that you became Nebraska, but my point is that you were still a blue blood. All you needed was the right coach to bring you back. Nebraska was never Alabama and they have no hope of ever being Alabama given their geographic location, but they can become "Nebraska" again with the right guy.
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