I've long wondered why we have the national anthem before sporting events - seems very nationalistic. Same thing with military fly-overs (though I do love aircraft). It's like making kids pledge allegiance to the flag every morning at school.
Weird.
What does standing for the anthem and flag mean?
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Weird.
To me the Olympics are fine. That's a national pride thing and representing your country thing. All the other stuff is just too much.
Fly-overs are at least fun/cool. I mean, who doesn't like a good fly-over. The National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance have always felt very Orwellian to me.
On the "Jon Piper" thing: Most of you are more political/religious than Literary. The poster was referring to the "Pied Piper of Hamlin", who played a pipe that compelled the children of the village to follow him to their destruction. His implication was that others were simply following Jon's lead without thinking things through. His mistake, and the same is true for most of us, is that when someone disagrees with you they just haven't considered the subject deeply enough.
Our President is not stupid, in spite of seeming that way often. He has not misunderstood the reason behind the protests. He chooses to misinterpret it for his own benefit. So he uses it to amplify his ulterior motive of making black men an object of scorn.
Our President is not stupid, in spite of seeming that way often. He has not misunderstood the reason behind the protests. He chooses to misinterpret it for his own benefit. So he uses it to amplify his ulterior motive of making black men an object of scorn.
Well enough, CV, and thanks for the kind words. Life is full of ups and downs, but I now have resources I never had before because of my church. The Good Lord blesses me far more than I deserve, I think.
I still get enthusiastic about Alabama football, and I stay up with the political news. I just don't post as much as I used to.
It does surprise and upset me that people I know and respect still support this president, who I do not respect. I sometimes try to believe there is method to his madness: but it is difficult.
I still get enthusiastic about Alabama football, and I stay up with the political news. I just don't post as much as I used to.
It does surprise and upset me that people I know and respect still support this president, who I do not respect. I sometimes try to believe there is method to his madness: but it is difficult.
The man is either a nut, a vile person, or a vile nut. I’m going with the latter.
As a former service member, I think it is a reminder of the people who served before me, with me, and after me. At the same time, I do not put a great deal of importance in standing in salute of the flag for civilians. It feels too try hard and forced maybe even an indoctrination to compel specific domestic and world views. I do not feel like these grand public displays of patriotism for civilians amount to anything more than loyalty tests and indoctrination of unquestioning support of our imperial military machine.
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Vile seems an appropriate term here, but I can't help but suggesting it's possible to rearrange the letters to spell evil, which might also be on point.
it bothered me too but I left it there intentionally just to see who would notice and call it out
To be technical it could be a spelling error instead. 
If you drop one o in the second word, then "your" becomes correct.
If you drop one o in the second word, then "your" becomes correct.
Stop distracting from the real issue here: it's way more comfortable to make this about kneeling and flags than socially ingrained racial prejudice, so let's all just focus on this red herring I found the other day.
If your a college football player at this college, it mean getting cut from the team.
Kudos to the head coach and team for punting him off.
This was a division III team. But I think it sends a nice message.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/10/11/division-iii-player-cut-anthem-kneeling
Kudos to the head coach and team for punting him off.
This was a division III team. But I think it sends a nice message.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/10/11/division-iii-player-cut-anthem-kneeling
Since you left out the context: the player wasn't dismissed because he knelt for the anthem. The player was dismissed because the team had agreed to collectively kneel prior to the anthem and stand during it, and Durante decided break the team's decision and kneel for the anthem as well.
Using this same logic, you must also think that Villanueva should have been fired for doing the same.
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