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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by cbi1972 View Post


    A gatling gun (or minigun) has multiple barrels which rotate and fire in turn. I would be shocked if that was actually what was used. The hand cranked weapons suspected in this atrocity are technically single barreled semiautomatic rifles, but the crank replaces actual trigger pulls.
    I am familiar with mini-guns and rail guns but the term "Gatling" evokes the stark imagery of hand-cranked multi-barrel weapon. And not knowing anything of modern hand-cranked modifications to single barrel rifles, I was surprised to hear that theory floated at first. But it seems to be a very logical and real possibility.

    I thought the article by French was interesting. Obviously there are a lot of questions that needs answering in this horrific event.
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    18-20 weapons in his room, some capable of FA fire.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/las-veg...66716?mod=e2tw
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    As a former major in the US Army Reserves, I'm sure he has some idea of them.
    Not necessarily at all. The hand-cranked is a gun nut/prepper device cobbled together in back workshops. It's certainly not any part of normal military ordnance. The irregularity of rhythm would indicate that a mechanical was not in charge of the timing of shots...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    I have a hard time believing he did all of this alone. Someone else knows.
    I agree, particularly in view of his brother's comments about the shooter not even being a weapons nut, and he hauls in 10 rifles. IF it does turn out to be a hand-cranked weapon or a trigger sear mod, then something smells to high heaven...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I agree, particularly in view of his brother's comments about the shooter not even being a weapons nut, and he hauls in 10 rifles. IF it does turn out to be a hand-cranked weapon or a trigger sear mod, then something smells to high heaven...
    Local news here already had been interviewing 1 gun shop where this guy bought at least 1 gun. Shop owner said he came in there all the time. So not buying the family line about him not being a gun guy.
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    One of my high school classmates was in the Luxor, which I'm told is right next to Mandalay Bay. Here is his first-person account he gave me permission to share on Facebook this morning:


    Ok, thought I would post and share. I am ok today but a little shook up. I got to Vegas yesterday afternoon and checked into my hotel, the Luxor, which is attached to the Mandalay Bay. I went over to the MB yesterday to get checked in and such but then left to go eat dinner.

    I had saw all the signs for the Route 91 Harvest festival and thought I should go and check it out. There were a lot of cute cowgirls here!

    After eating, i was not feeling well. I don't think it was food more than just travel and eating later than normal lunch/dinner. But my stomach had a bit of a bug. So I went to Walgreens and picked up some water for my CPAP and went back to hotel and settled in for the night.

    At about 10:15, all heck broke loose. I was awakened by an alarm going off in my room. I though it was a fire or something and started getting dressed. Then they came across loud speaker and told us "There is an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay and we were on lock down. DO NOT leave your room."

    That is all we got and alarm stayed on for almost an hour. Then it went on and off sporadically through the night and early morning telling us we were still on lock down and eventually that those that wanted to leave could through the doors to the Excalibur (Hotel/Casino on opposite side of Mandalay Bay).

    I am not sure if it was lucky or divine intervention or what that kept me away from the event but I am lucky.

    It is a bit overwhelming and I had a moment or two this morning thinking about all those innocent lives and such. Not sure what to think as the details are coming in and I am trying to process. I don't know if I feel guilt or what, but in the shower, I just kind of tried to come to grips.

    My event has been cancelled for today and supposed to start tomorrow. I am not sure what to do.
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I agree, particularly in view of his brother's comments about the shooter not even being a weapons nut, and he hauls in 10 rifles. IF it does turn out to be a hand-cranked weapon or a trigger sear mod, then something smells to high heaven...
    French knowing or not knowing about a hand-grank gun aside; I believe this is what he was alluding to. Thus far, the reports point to something more than just a crazy guy looking for revenge. The usual signs of a mass shooter aren't here with this guy.
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    Apparently he was an avid gambler - wonder if he did some serious betting and came up short?

    Just grasping at straws here...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by cbi1972 View Post


    A gatling gun (or minigun) has multiple barrels which rotate and fire in turn. I would be shocked if that was actually what was used. The hand cranked weapons suspected in this atrocity are technically single barreled semiautomatic rifles, but the crank replaces actual trigger pulls.
    Even if he had one in his room, I've never heard of one being fired except off a tripod or bipod. Hard to see how that's possible with those broken windows, with shards sticking up from below...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    wonder if he did some serious betting and came up short?
    Before or after he carried 20 weapons to a strategically appropriate corner room? I know. It boggles the mind not knowing why someone would do such. No reason is sufficient.

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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    French knowing or not knowing about a hand-grank gun aside; I believe this is what he was alluding to. Thus far, the reports point to something more than just a crazy guy looking for revenge. The usual signs of a mass shooter aren't here with this guy.
    He really only mentions FA or bump, neither of which really fits the pattern of fire. CA's theory of a bad trigger sear mod could explain the irregular pattern of fire. However, I agree that there's something awfully weird here. Interesting that ISIS has already claimed him...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by IMALOYAL1 View Post
    Before or after he carried 20 weapons to a strategically appropriate corner room? I know. It boggles the mind not knowing why someone would do such. No reason is sufficient.
    Hope he didn't destroy the brain with the suicide shot. I'd sure like to know if there were anomalies...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    This real life thing is so bizarre that not even CSI - which had some pretty ridiculous plot lines at times as far as reality - ever did this.
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