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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Apparently he was an avid gambler - wonder if he did some serious betting and came up short?

    Just grasping at straws here...
    This was too premeditated for that, I think. He chose the side of the building overlooking the festival and stockpiled for days before acting. There's a piece we're missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharminTide View Post
    This was too premeditated for that, I think. He chose the side of the building overlooking the festival and stockpiled for days before acting. There's a piece we're missing.
    I've never been a betting man so I don't know, but if we're talking about serious money, I suspect he might have had days before the payment was due. But again, shot in the dark.
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    Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Had Recent Large Gambling Transactions


    The suspected gunman behind the Las Vegas massacre made several large gambling transactions in recent weeks, according to multiple senior law enforcement officials and a casino executive.

    On multiple occasions, Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day — and in some cases amounts greater than $20,000 and $30,000 — at Las Vegas casinos, according to an NBC News source who read the suspect's Multiple Currency Transaction Reports (CTR) and a casino gaming executive.

    According to a U.S. statute, a CTR is a Treasury- and IRS-mandated report that casinos have to file when "each transaction in currency involving cash-in and cash-out of more than $10,000 in a gaming day."
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by 2003TIDE View Post
    Local news here already had been interviewing 1 gun shop where this guy bought at least 1 gun. Shop owner said he came in there all the time. So not buying the family line about him not being a gun guy.
    And just when I was about to post that the guy could have been kidnapped and forced to rent the hotel room in his name and some other deranged guy or guys did all of this and will be doing it again with some other poor sap. Instead the guy came in all the time? Sounds like the family did not know anything about him at all.
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Apparently he was an avid gambler - wonder if he did some serious betting and came up short?

    Just grasping at straws here...
    That was the first thing that crossed my mind this morning when I turned on the tv at 4:00am and heard about the shooting.....guy loses his life savings and goes off on the world...dude was definitely one sick puppy whatever his reasoning was.


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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Stephen Paddock, Las Vegas Suspect, Was a Gambler, a Cipher, a ‘Lone Wolf’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/u...s-shooter.html

    “He seemed normal, other than that he lived by gambling,” Ms. Judy told FloridaToday. “ He was very open about that.

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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by IMALOYAL1 View Post
    After listening to the video clips I'm interested in what he had. Most firearm fanatics don't keep it a secret what they have. Most like to show off their weapons and even more, their knowledge of weapons. I think I could easily name the few friends I know that have owned full auto weapons.
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    There have been many variants of crank fire assemblies for sale for years. I ran across one a couple years back that was a direct bolt on to the trigger guard for around $40 (the one I looked at was for an AR platform, but I'm sure they make them for other weapons). A stack of 100rd beta mags and a few AR's (to swap between to keep from overheating) could lay down that much fire very easily, for not a whole lot $....


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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    My stream of consciousness reactions to this:

    I'll never understand this type of thing. Why a person would do such a thing is just beyond my ability to comprehend.

    We need mental health care in this country. You'll never convince me the people who commit these atrocities are 'sane'.

    If it was an automatic weapon (it sounded like it in the video I saw on CNN), then this guy was likely a serious gun collector. Those are difficult (months of background checks by the ATF) and expensive (>$20k) to get.

    *sigh*
    Do we know if the weapons were purchased legally? Could've been stolen or purchased under the table..

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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    I started thinking about the embezzlement we had at Phoenix of Huntsville several years back. The last $400K the kid hit us far was to pay off a Las Vegas gambling debt. He told the FBI agent that they had told him that it was either pay up the $400K or he'd be found dead. Since his two closest friends had just been found dead - one in Las Vegas - he said it was no choice at all. Then was when I started carrying again...
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    None of this makes sense. From all appearances, this guy was an upstanding, law-abiding citizen right up until this incident.

    He had no criminal record, no history of mental illness, had not served in the military, and appeared to neither be openly political nor religious. He even had a pilot's certificate.

    Yes, he had recently displayed some significant gambling activity but he was described as currently making his living via gambling and those amounts of gambling activity are not unusual for professional, semi-professional, or wanna-be-professional - aka hobbyist - gamblers.

    This seems to be the kind of guy who would pass even the strictest gun control checks in the country and had been buying firearms, while passing the associated background checks, for years.

    No gun control laws short of a complete firearms ban with confiscation would have likely stopped this - which, to be honest, is usually not the case when dealing with legally purchased firearms (which is not the norm in mass shootings).

    And, to top it all off, there is no discernible motive.
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    Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Prayers for all the victims and their families. This is just horrific. 58 people gone in just a little over 4 minutes. As bad as that is, it might have been a lot worse had the police not found him sooner. Props to the LV police in getting there as soon as they did, they probably saved more lives than we will ever know.

    Im simply not buying that the guy snapped. The venue and amount of fire power assembled lends itself to being painstakingly planned, coldly calculated, and too well thought out. This guy obviously wanted to maximize casualties and mow down as many people as possible.
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