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Hate Crime or PTSD? Marine attacks Iraqi restaurant in Portland

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This story makes me incredibly angry. It's baffling how poorly we have handled mental health in the US. If we can't address mental health issues with our vets we aren't ever going to address it for the broader population.
 
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RollTide_HTTR said:
This story makes me incredibly angry. It's baffling how poorly we have handled mental health in the US. If we can't address mental health issues with our vets we aren't ever going to address it for the broader population.
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You can't make them go to treatment. I would hazard a guess that admitting their mind is getting the best of them is not very easy.

I can't imagine how terrible it is for those brave soldiers. I've hit and killed 3 people at work and it stays with you in being varying degrees. Watching scenarios like he experienced would definitely change you.


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AlexanderFan said:
You can't make them go to treatment. I would hazard a guess that admitting their mind is getting the best of them is not very easy.

I can't imagine how terrible it is for those brave soldiers. I've hit and killed 3 people at work and it stays with you in being varying degrees. Watching scenarios like he experienced would definitely change you.


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Goodness! You must work in rail.
 
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Goodness! You must work in rail.
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Yep. 15 years. Many years ago I met a Canadian man who was riding with a transformer we were carrying (I think it was Optimus Prime, but he never spoke, just sat on the rail car in disguise). He told us he had worked at Canadian National for 28 years and had hit 14 people in his career, including a track worker at 97mph (passenger service). I'm not sure my sanity would hold up past 10.


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I feel for him and also for the Iraqi. In the end, though, there is free will. His mental condition should be taken into consideration as a mitigating circumstance but it shouldn't be a get out of jail free card...
 
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For those who don't know, not only do I have the memory illness, I've got PTSD, too.

I guess I TRY to put myself as much as possible in the guy's place but it's difficult for me to let it pass. Personally, I've never been fond of labeling anything a 'hate crime,' as if that somehow makes it worse. OJ didn't kill Nicole and Ron because he loved them, but that would likely be called a 'crime of passion.'


btw - I don't want to speak for Dr Staci nor will I disclose details (some of us know) but there was a recent tragedy that is somewhat similar that she's talked about that was/is rough.
 
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