Yes, I finally was able to review the play to answer my own question; the ball was handed off. So, as others have pointed out, the ball has to be thrown beyond the neutral zone if this is to be an automatic first down.
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So in short, the referees got both calls correct. As much grief as we give them, that does show how difficult it is to keep all the rules straight: two obscure once in twenty year calls happened during the game (the fumble out of the endzone not equaling a turnover and thus being placed at the spot of the fumble, and the defensive holding on a run play call). We can complain about the rules themselves, but the refs actually made correct calls.
The Good - We won, 11 straight
The Bad - Alcohol problems
The Ugly - Auburn
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The Bad - Alcohol problems
The Ugly - Auburn
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The Good - most of the game. Slow start on O was annoying but not overly surprising.
The Bad - The Tua pick 6 looked pretty bad and the fact that we let it be returned, but he will learn from it. Also, I may have underrated his running ability.
The Ugly - Nothing was really ugly. I just can't stand Gary Danielson
The Bad - The Tua pick 6 looked pretty bad and the fact that we let it be returned, but he will learn from it. Also, I may have underrated his running ability.
The Ugly - Nothing was really ugly. I just can't stand Gary Danielson
and ironically..the very same call for holding occurred in the USC-ND game. USC was awarded half the distance but the down was simply replayed.
He does have a tendency to get on my nerves--and his throat condition didn't help). But at the same time, when Tua tossed the TD pass to Ruggs I thought Danielson was gonna mess his pants cause he was crushing SO HARD on Tua.
Alcohol problems????? did you run out before the end of the game???? BUY MORE next time LOL
I wasn't commenting on the ref's call, but my opinion of the rule. Just an opinion: that it should not be that a pass is required because the holding may be why the QB does not throw the ball.
I'm not sure why some are complaining about Bama's "slow offensive start". The first drive was a nice 12 play TD drive, the only other possession in qtr 1 was a 7 play drive that ended in a punt. That's not great but is it that bad ? The second qtr: one 3 and out, 2 long ( 15 play 85, 6 play 77 at end of half) TD drives. The entire first half Bama had 5 possessions: 3 long TD drives, one 7 play possession and punt, one 3 and out, ~18 minutes of TOP. Jalen 144 yards passing. UT is not a good team, but they came to play and were as physical as they could be - they did not back down. I was impressed with that aspect of their game. Bama's first half was not scintillating offensively, but certainly effective. Is that bad ?
It was a slow start in the sense that 2 of the first 3 drives went no where and it was more methodical than at least I expected. I guess I didn't really expect to need 12 and 15 play drives to score an expected more big plays. I guess it wasnt really a "slow start" just slower than I expected.
The good-both the offense and defense
the bad-probably sealed the chances that Butch Jones won't be back next year.
the ugly-punts muffed and U cheat scored
the bad-probably sealed the chances that Butch Jones won't be back next year.
the ugly-punts muffed and U cheat scored
I think this needs clearing up a little: Defensive holding is an automatic first down only if the pass goes beyond the neutral zone AND the holding takes place beyond the neutral zone against an eligible receiver.
Because two of the touchdowns were right before end of half, until 4:48 remaining in the second half, we had no more than a 7 point lead, which was far below expectation.
Tennessee's defense had been terrible all year, especially against the run, which is the strength of the Alabama offense.
We had been expecting a blood bath, and that wasn't happening, at least until it got turned around.
Also, there were several stops for no gain, and some off-the-mark passes which contributed to the sense of frustration.
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I guess it depends on what "start" means. If it is the beginning of the game - Bama scored on its first possession; if it's the next 2 possessions - they did not score; if it is the last 2 - they scored TDs on both.
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