Question: Heisman Trophy: I’m thinking serious changes need to be made

bamacon · Dec 9, 2017

To me the Heisman needs a reboot.
Any thoughts?

One main thing they should do is wait until after the bowl games. DeShaun Watson was a Heisman player and should have won last year IMO.

Another is integrity. Does it matter?

This year Baker will win and character should count.

This is what it should be like....

https://youtu.be/MVEnPa20f9Q

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B1GTide · Dec 9, 2017

Truthfully, I only care about these awards when an Alabama or OSU player wins, and then only for a day or two. So I guess that I don't really care about the awards at all, just the players.

JBama_in_PCOLA · Dec 9, 2017

Watson has his chances last season, his regular season was no where near as good as Jackson though he did win head to head against him.

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TideFan in AU · Dec 9, 2017

JBama_in_PCOLA said:
Watson has his chances last season, his regular season was no where near as good as Jackson though he did win head to head against him.

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Really? Do you think Jackson was the best player in CFB last year?
The Heisman should about more than numbers. Leadership and being a winner should factor into it.

I'll just say this. I wish the "most outstanding" player in CFB had been the QB in the NCG last year instead of Watson. Don't you?

deliveryman35 · Dec 9, 2017

He will never win citizen of the year with me, but the best PLAYER won the award. Congrats to Baker Mayfield and the Sooners.

RT27 · Dec 9, 2017

I am sick of QB's being about the only ones to win, with a RB tossed in now and then. There are 22 positions on a field, and the QB and RB are not always even close to being the best on a field. I dare say there have been many defensive guys that are much better overall to a team, than the best QB in the nation. Time to quit making it a numbers only award.

JBama_in_PCOLA · Dec 9, 2017

TideFan in AU said:
Really? Do you think Jackson was the best player in CFB last year?
The Heisman should about more than numbers. Leadership and being a winner should factor into it.

I'll just say this. I wish the "most outstanding" player in CFB had been the QB in the NCG last year instead of Watson. Don't you?

No, but neither was Watson.

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BamaHoosier · Dec 9, 2017

The thing that gets me is the arrogance of the award. The Heisman committee wants to throw around words like “integrity” and yet 3 of the last 7 winners have had severe character issues during their college careers. Tonight the head trustee of the committee told Baker Mayfield that he was a credit to college athletics. That is an absolute joke considering Mayfield was arrested last year for public intox and resisting arrest.

The arrest wouldn’t even bother me had it been a one off mistake. It would be very forgivable had it been a young and dumb decision, but he’d kept his nose clean since. Instead he’s flipped off fans, openly screamed obscenities on national tv, and vulgarly showboated in the direction of his opponents.

I would argue that Mayfield is a worse pick than Manziel. At least the majority of Manziel’s transgressions were after he won the trophy. Mayfield has virtually been given a free pass because he has a feel good backstory.

There is no doubt that Baker was the best player in the country on the field. However calling him a credit to scholar athletes is insulting to all of the scholar athletes work just as hard, with far less glory, while actually keeping their noses clean.

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gamersfuel · Dec 9, 2017

there will always be arguments. but for the past few years i've been ok with the winners. it's fine in my eyes

TideFan in AU · Dec 9, 2017

JBama_in_PCOLA said:
No, but neither was Watson.

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Who would get your vote?

beatthemtigers · Dec 9, 2017

I think they need to change it somehow where defensive players get more recognition somehow, but I don’t think they should wait until the bowl games. Then they would choose a player out of the playoff every time

DzynKingRTR · Dec 9, 2017

Mayfield will be a NFL bust and will soon be working for Foxsports or maybe prison. either one.

CajunCrimson · Dec 9, 2017

DzynKingRTR said:
Mayfield will be a NFL bust and will soon be working for Foxsports or maybe prison. either one.

ReturnToGlory · Dec 10, 2017

I pay no attention to the award because only 2 positions maybe 3 have an opportunity to win it.

CrimsonTheory · Dec 10, 2017

Both offensive and defensive players can win awards prior the Heisman and yet only offensive players (with a token defensive player now and then) are pretty much allowed to win the Heisman? Yeah, something doesn't sit right with me. I think the top defensive players in college should be allowed in the same spotlight as the offensive player. So why isn't there a defensive version of the Heisman? I suspect B. Chubb and Minkah, would at least headline a defensive version of the award.

drwho · Dec 10, 2017

CrimsonTheory said:
So why isn't there a defensive version of the Heisman?

I think the Bronko Nagurski trophy is about as close as it comes.

teamplayer · Dec 10, 2017

I think there are already enough trophies to go around at the end of the year. Watch the other awards, and you can see linemen and linebackers and even punters win awards. I don't watch awards shows, so it would be fine with me if they put the presentation of the Heisman in with all of the others and just called it the most dynamic or impressive offensive player award.

selmaborntidefan · Dec 10, 2017

bamacon said:
To me the Heisman needs a reboot.
Any thoughts?

One main thing they should do is wait until after the bowl games. DeShaun Watson was a Heisman player and should have won last year IMO.

Another is integrity. Does it matter?

This year Baker will win and character should count.

This is what it should be like....

https://youtu.be/MVEnPa20f9Q

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I honestly don't care.

Heisman Trophy is awarded for "best skill position player on a national championship contender" in almost every single case. Whether that guy kicks his dog, engages in insider trading, or trips blind people is irrelevant unless he's doing it on the football field.

In light of what some Heisman winners have done AFTER winning it (I'm looking at you, Billy Cannon and OJ Simpson), who cares?

BamaGreek · Dec 10, 2017

I think Heisman is another thing that ESPN has run into the ground. Before the first day of the season we get Heisman picks and continue to get them everyday thereafter. I'm glad when a Bama player gets the award and presents himself well when representing his family and university. Other than that I don't care no I think there re a lot of folks like me who feel the same.

selmaborntidefan · Dec 10, 2017

As far as after the bowl games, no.

It's a SEASON award, not "award given to the guy who just now got everyone's attention with a stellar game."

The attention span of the moronic voters leads me to at least HOPE we can get the right winner if we do it post conference title games.

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