Commits and Targets Expected to Sign Early and/or Enroll Early

RTR91 · Dec 13, 2017

We're a week away from the early signing period. Here are the commits expected to sign next Wednesday and/or enroll in January:

	Sign Early	Enroll Early
Vernon Jackon
Slade Bolden	X	X
Xavier Williams	X
Michael Parker
Tommy Brown	X
Emil Ekiyor	X
Jordan Davis	X	X
Stephon Wynn	X	X
Cameron Latu	X
Quay Walker	X
Jalyn Armour-Davis	X	X
Nadab Joseph	X	X
Saivion Smith	X	X
Skyler DeLong	X	X

There are a few targets that will possibly sign next Wednesday, too:

Emory Jones (also enroll early)
Penei Sewell
Brenton Cox
Eyabi Anoma
Josh Jobe (also enroll early)

runtheoption22 · Dec 13, 2017

all those DBs getting an extra spring in

JustNeedMe81 · Dec 13, 2017

Might be best move for Alabama to get it out of the way and focus on the playoff.

Tideflyer · Dec 13, 2017

Stephon Wynn signing and enrolling early is big if Payne leaves for the draft. That`s especially so as well since it appears that our DT recruiting is " iffy" at best this cycle. Wynn will have to slide down inside. Raekwon Davis may have to as well. Really would like to see Payne stay for his senior year but I don`t think it`ll happen.

CoolBreeze · Dec 13, 2017

Tideflyer said:
Stephon Wynn signing and enrolling early is big if Payne leaves for the draft. That`s especially so as well since it appears that our DT recruiting is " iffy" at best this cycle. Wynn will have to slide down inside. Raekwon Davis may have to as well. Really would like to see Payne stay for his senior year but I don`t think it`ll happen.

That would be the recruiting coup of the cycle if were to happen...sort of what Kirby did last year for his RBs. Saban will counsel him correctly. If he feels that another year in the program would help his draft grade then he'll tell him. Hard to turn down the cash when the league comes a callin though.

Tideflyer · Dec 13, 2017

CoolBreeze said:
That would be the recruiting coup of the cycle if were to happen...sort of what Kirby did last year for his RBs. Saban will counsel him correctly. If he feels that another year in the program would help his draft grade then he'll tell him. Hard to turn down the cash when the league comes a callin though.

No question, and if his grade is high enough, I wouldn`t blame him one iota. Having said that.... sure would stabilize the D line next year!

CoolBreeze · Dec 13, 2017

The more I think about it the more I like this early signing period. I mean, we get to sign the solid commits while giving the rest of the field of targets a solid look at who their prospective team mates will be over the next 3-4-5 years. If we sign most of the kids in this thread I think we really finish strong, very strong on signing day in February.

CoolBreeze · Dec 14, 2017

Very interesting read (article on the football board sticky).

"To put it another way, a lot of schools think upward of 80 percent of their recruiting classes will sign in December, with only a few players waiting until February."

https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...316/early-signing-day-period-coaches-strategy

TiderJack · Dec 14, 2017

CoolBreeze said:
Very interesting read (article on the football board sticky).

"To put it another way, a lot of schools think upward of 80 percent of their recruiting classes will sign in December, with only a few players waiting until February."

https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...316/early-signing-day-period-coaches-strategy

Thanks for the info and that is interesting. I think there will be quite a few bad scenarios after the early signing period is over with kids who were promised or told something that does not come to fruition.

Bamabuzzard · Dec 14, 2017

Wasn't CNS against the early signing period? If so, why?

CoolBreeze · Dec 14, 2017

Bamabuzzard said:
Wasn't CNS against the early signing period? If so, why?

I suspect it has something to do with timing. Normally, for example, two teams would have to be preparing for the SEC Championship game essentially giving a leg up to all the other schools leading up to the early signing period. This year we lucked out by getting into the playoff without going to the SECCG freeing up time to get some cruitin done before the early signing period.

Tell you what though - I really hate that the fax girl days are over. Signing day was like a national holiday at our house.

TiderJack · Dec 14, 2017

CoolBreeze said:
I suspect it has something to do with timing. Normally, for example, two teams would have to be preparing for the SEC Championship game essentially giving a leg up to all the other schools leading up to the early signing period. This year we lucked out by getting into the playoff without going to the SECCG freeing up time to get some cruitin done before the early signing period.

Tell you what though - I really hate that the fax girl days are over. Signing day was like a national holiday at our house.

Saban also said that it cuts down on the evaluation process and that some late bloomers or players they had not had a chance to evaluate yet would sign early with lower power 5 or non power 5 schools that some of the big schools would take, i.e. Josh Jacobs.

RTR91 · Dec 14, 2017

Bamabuzzard said:
Wasn't CNS against the early signing period? If so, why?

IIRC, evaluation period (weakens the chance of a Josh Jacobs type situation) and coaching moves.

Coworker's son is a senior, and we talk about this about once a week. Why would a kid sign right now? Let all the dust from the coaching moves settle before signing. At least in basketball the early signing period is five months before the regular signing period.

TD7 · Dec 14, 2017

TiderJ said:
Saban also said that it cuts down on the evaluation process and that some late bloomers or players they had not had a chance to evaluate yet would sign early with lower power 5 or non power 5 schools that some of the big schools would take, i.e. Josh Jacobs.

Coach Saban is exactly right about this, its currently affecting the way my son is being recruited. He is one of these "late bloomers". A lot of schools want to offer him after the early signing period. So they can see where they're at with scholarships numbers.

CoolBreeze · Dec 14, 2017

TD7 said:
Coach Saban is exactly right about this, its currently affecting the way my son is being recruited. He is one of these "late bloomers". A lot of schools want to offer him after the early signing period. So they can see where they're at with scholarships numbers.

Late bloomers always have the edge in the end so keep the faith. Do you remember a kid by the name of Wallace Gilberry? Dude didn't get a UA scholly offer until after the Alabama Mississippi Allstar game and he ended up playing, what, 12 years in the League? Yea, we love late bloomers!

teamplayer · Dec 14, 2017

Tideflyer said:
CoolBreeze said:

That would be the recruiting coup of the cycle if were to happen...sort of what Kirby did last year for his RBs. Saban will counsel him correctly. If he feels that another year in the program would help his draft grade then he'll tell him. Hard to turn down the cash when the league comes a callin though.

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No question, and if his grade is high enough, I wouldn`t blame him one iota. Having said that.... sure would stabilize the D line next year!

That is for sure. I would love for Payne to play another year with us, but I would think it is a certainty that he is NFL bound. We really need some of the talented big fellas to come on board.

BamaInBham · Dec 14, 2017

RTR91 said:
IIRC, evaluation period (weakens the chance of a Josh Jacobs type situation) and coaching moves.

Coworker's son is a senior, and we talk about this about once a week. Why would a kid sign right now? Let all the dust from the coaching moves settle before signing. At least in basketball the early signing period is five months before the regular signing period.

There are kids that know what they want to do, and don't care about any "fun" associated with waiting, so why not sign now ? A few want to make sure that they will have a spot.

Tideflyer · Dec 14, 2017

teamplayer said:
That is for sure. I would love for Payne to play another year with us, but I would think it is a certainty that he is NFL bound. We really need some of the talented big fellas to come on board.

Quite the understatement and the aspect of recruiting this cycle that appears to be the major concern IMHO. Can only hope that there`s some progress going on behind the scenes. Publicly anyway, we`re not seeing quality inside guys, that aren`t that plentiful anyway, lining up to come to UA. If we miss on a pure DT or two, which we already have in a couple of cases, I can`t see us avoiding some shuffling for next year.

teamplayer · Dec 14, 2017

Tideflyer said:
Quite the understatement and the aspect of recruiting this cycle that appears to be the major concern IMHO. Can only hope that there`s some progress going on behind the scenes. Publicly anyway, we`re not seeing quality inside guys, that aren`t that plentiful anyway, lining up to come to UA. If we miss on a pure DT or two, which we already have in a couple of cases, I can`t see us avoiding some shuffling for next year.

That is what I am afraid will happen. I know the game is changing and the monster tackles like Cody aren't used much any more, but I still like having those big guys who can hold that line and eat space while ends and LBs fly to the ball. Our line got pushed around a few times this year, and I did not like it. I got spoiled with our guys the last few years.

NoNC4Tubs · Dec 14, 2017

Bamabuzzard said:
Wasn't CNS against the early signing period? If so, why?

The 3-Star kids will be signing early and the 5-Stars in February.

That kind of muddies things...

I am sure that new strategies will result from what happens this month.

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