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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

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    It's been taken down from youtube due to Copyright infringement...
    You can still go over to ESPN, find the page where they have the WatchESPN app shows archived and it's there. Unfortunately the signal is choppy and the player likes to reset a lot.
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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

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    Seems like this is a spot where Jalens father could play a big role. He should be able to offer Jalen sound advise based on how he has seen Jalen perform as a QB for Bama, what his real potential is re next level, etc. Hard to keep emotion out of it when its your son but he's a coach and has coached Jalen. I think a lot may depend on how the Dad views how Jalen was treated by the coaching staff. Did he get a fair shake? Did he get the coaching to develop potential etc? Going to be an interesting spring.
    That might be a bridge too far. I feel pretty confident saying there's no way his dad is going to tell him, "son, you've struggled at QB and the other guy is better, you should change positions." They're going to fight for the QB job and only if Jalen doesn't win it and Jalen himself wants to stay with his friends at UA is the subject of another position going to come up. Otherwise I believe his dad will advise him to transfer.

    The other part of this scenario that hasn't been talked about yet is Mac Jones didn't stay static this year. He got better. I don't think he's going to be allowed to compete with those guys this spring simply because there's not enough time/reps. But if, say, Tua clearly broke out ahead of Jalen early in fall camp and stayed separated from him, it's not like Jalen can just put it on cruise control and stay No. 2. If it starts to look like Mac is catching up fast to Jalen, that changes a lot of things.
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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

    Are there any 2-QB packages that make any sense? Tua-to-Jalen on a jet sweep, and he can either turn it up field or toss it up the sideline to the open man?

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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

    Quote Originally Posted by JessN View Post
    That might be a bridge too far. I feel pretty confident saying there's no way his dad is going to tell him, "son, you've struggled at QB and the other guy is better, you should change positions." They're going to fight for the QB job and only if Jalen doesn't win it and Jalen himself wants to stay with his friends at UA is the subject of another position going to come up. Otherwise I believe his dad will advise him to transfer.

    The other part of this scenario that hasn't been talked about yet is Mac Jones didn't stay static this year. He got better. I don't think he's going to be allowed to compete with those guys this spring simply because there's not enough time/reps. But if, say, Tua clearly broke out ahead of Jalen early in fall camp and stayed separated from him, it's not like Jalen can just put it on cruise control and stay No. 2. If it starts to look like Mac is catching up fast to Jalen, that changes a lot of things.
    Thanks - haven't heard anything about Mac in a long time. Glad to hear that he is continuing to work on his game.

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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

    While it will be an open competition, there is no way Saban will or should declare Tua the starter at this point, there is almost no way that Tua will not be the starter whenever one is named. It's not Jalen's fault, IMO, there is not a QB in the Saban era who could withstand the avalanche that is Tua's talent - IMO, really since Stabler. Not only is he a far, far better and more polished passer, IMO, he may even be a better runner. He is much quicker than Jalen, makes better decisions, and is almost as powerful in the lower body and almost as fast. Not only that, as great as Jalen's intangibles are, Tua's are even better. He is just as respected as a person, just as well liked, has more moxie and is more composed. If Tua is not the starter next year, the rest of the coaching staff, the players, the fans and the rest of the college football world will explode in outrage. Yes, Jalen should have his chance, though he has no chance; he should be shown respect for the kind of person he is and for the wonderful things he has done for the program; but time and chance have been kind and unkind to him. There has been no one since Stabler who is close to Tua in tangibles and intangibles. He has everything: physical, mental, character, personality, and makeup - everything but height.

    Who on the face of the entire earth, after throwing a bad interception, could or would walk over to Coach Saban, smile, put his arm around him and tell him don't worry he'll learn from it ?

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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaInBham View Post
    While it will be an open competition, there is no way Saban will or should declare Tua the starter at this point, there is almost no way that Tua will not be the starter whenever one is named. It's not Jalen's fault, IMO, there is not a QB in the Saban era who could withstand the avalanche that is Tua's talent - IMO, really since Stabler. Not only is he a far, far better and more polished passer, IMO, he may even be a better runner. He is much quicker than Jalen, makes better decisions, and is almost as powerful in the lower body and almost as fast. Not only that, as great as Jalen's intangibles are, Tua's are even better. He is just as respected as a person, just as well liked, has more moxie and is more composed. If Tua is not the starter next year, the rest of the coaching staff, the players, the fans and the rest of the college football world will explode in outrage. Yes, Jalen should have his chance, though he has no chance; he should be shown respect for the kind of person he is and for the wonderful things he has done for the program; but time and chance have been kind and unkind to him. There has been no one since Stabler who is close to Tua in tangibles and intangibles. He has everything: physical, mental, character, personality, and makeup - everything but height.

    Who on the face of the entire earth, after throwing a bad interception, could or would walk over to Coach Saban, smile, put his arm around him and tell him don't worry he'll learn from it ?
    The bolded, BIB. The bolded. Good stuff. And true.

    The situation is less about Jalen's talent and more about Tua's once in a generation talent.

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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

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    Are there any 2-QB packages that make any sense? Tua-to-Jalen on a jet sweep, and he can either turn it up field or toss it up the sideline to the open man?
    I don't think those work anywhere.

    As soon as you put 2 QBs on the field together, any defense worth a darn is going to reset to safe. As soon as Jalen took a handoff on a jet sweep, you can expect double coverage on whatever receiver is going deep. If they don't double that guy, that team's defensive coordinator is a moron and the team employing him is likely not a contender anyway.
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    Re: Georgia wrap-up: Sabanís courage to make a tough call nets him a sixth title

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    I don't think those work anywhere.

    As soon as you put 2 QBs on the field together, any defense worth a darn is going to reset to safe. As soon as Jalen took a handoff on a jet sweep, you can expect double coverage on whatever receiver is going deep. If they don't double that guy, that team's defensive coordinator is a moron and the team employing him is likely not a contender anyway.
    Agreed. And I don't see any reason to dabble in a 2 -QB system as it's usually reserved for QB's who do 2 very different types of things. If Tua was an immobile statue in the pocket it might make sense to run Jalen out for a few plays to keep the defense guessing on run vs. pass but Tua is pretty good at both - and if a power run is really what you need out of the QB position you might as well just go wildcat and put Najee Harris back there.

    There's a lot of talk about how to keep Jalen engaged in the offense and in my opinion all of it sounds far fetched. I don't think he'd crack the 2 deep on any other position on the team - not because he's a bad athlete but because we have too much talent across the field and those guys have been training in their discipline for years. Talent + Effort = Skill. I don't think Jalen could make it up. Now, Jalen has tremendous character so I could see him staying - but OTOH he's also tasted glory as a QB and could conceivably get another starting job elsewhere. I just don't see him playing a serious role in this offense come September.
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