The 7 Juniors - Who is coming out early?

dayhiker · Jan 10, 2018

Intl.Aperture said:
Mods. Plz.

He deleted at the same time that I was deleting it. It didn't last long.

JustNeedMe81 · Jan 10, 2018

Bo is gone. Buggs should stay. hes good, but he can improve his stock. Harris should go. No issue with this decision. I wish them the best.

RedWave · Jan 10, 2018

crimsonaudio said:
FWIW, this is the first year I can recall that the thought of losing any of the juniors doesn't really make me worry - I'd love to have them ALL return, but even if those listed all leave, Bama is in great shape.

RTR

I don't know. I think losing Minkah is going to hurt. He has been quite the player for us, and I don't know who can replace him. I can see replacements at other positions, but not his.

Intl.Aperture · Jan 10, 2018

RedWave said:
I don't know. I think losing Minkah is going to hurt. He has been quite the player for us, and I don't know who can replace him. I can see replacements at other positions, but not his.

Nobody can immediately replace him and the loss of him AND Harrison would hurt a LOT. The 2 players from the secondary who are staying behind that show promise are Deointe Thompson and Trevon Diggs - the rest are rather untested. Would be great for Harrison to stay and keep developing into a Landon Collins type Alpha.

BamaBen15 · Jan 10, 2018

Intl.Aperture said:
Nobody can immediately replace him and the loss of him AND Harrison would hurt a LOT. The 2 players from the secondary who are staying behind that show promise are Deointe Thompson and Trevon Diggs - the rest are rather untested. Would be great for Harrison to stay and keep developing into a Landon Collins type Alpha.

I would not be surprised to see Saivon Smith become the alpha..

Intl.Aperture · Jan 10, 2018

BamaBen15 said:
I would not be surprised to see Saivon Smith become the alpha..

Perhaps. It tends to be the more experienced players on the team and Thompson seems to have a bit of a fire in his belly. Hopefully Smith is a solid contributor though. We are going to need him.

Intl.Aperture · Jan 10, 2018

Nevermind

crimsonaudio · Jan 10, 2018

RedWave said:
I don't know. I think losing Minkah is going to hurt. He has been quite the player for us, and I don't know who can replace him. I can see replacements at other positions, but not his.

Maybe it's because I knew this was Minkah's last year before the season even started, but I'm not worried. The secondary will absolutely be a work in progress next year, but they can't beat you if the QB is trying to throw the ball lying on his back. The front seven should be crazy good next year.

crimsonaudio · Jan 10, 2018

Intl.Aperture said:
No. There are STRICT rules about not posting political content on the football board. How have you been a member here since 2009 and not know that? THere's a WHOLE thread on the Bo thing over in the Non-Sports section.

Please don't quote material that has a great chance of being deleted.

He has plenty of time to think about whether or not he wishes to respect site policies.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread...

RTR91 · Jan 10, 2018

crimsonaudio said:
Maybe it's because I knew this was Minkah's last year before the season even started, but I'm not worried. The secondary will absolutely be a work in progress next year, but they can't beat you if the QB is trying to throw the ball lying on his back. The front seven should be crazy good next year.

Deonte Thompson played great in the last two games. Shy Carter was out on the field during some of Georgia's drives in the second half. We have the #1 JUCO DB already on campus. Diggs should be solid after having a year to learn the position behind Levi and Anthony.

Experience won't be great, but the potential is clearly there. Even better news is most of the guys will be expected to be back for 2019.

bamacpa · Jan 10, 2018

A more efficient offense next year would take some pressure off the young secondary.

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crimsonaudio · Jan 10, 2018

RTR91 said:
Experience won't be great, but the potential is clearly there. Even better news is most of the guys will be expected to be back for 2019.

Yh, crazy talent will be back there, but we will lack experience, which is why I call it a work in progress. We'll likely see some blown coverages as they develop, but I think they won't be left hanging out there as the front seven will be very, very good. The LB corps next year is going to be ridiculous.

gtgilbert · Jan 10, 2018

crimsonaudio said:
Maybe it's because I knew this was Minkah's last year before the season even started, but I'm not worried. The secondary will absolutely be a work in progress next year, but they can't beat you if the QB is trying to throw the ball lying on his back. The front seven should be crazy good next year.

My worry with the secondary is that I think this is the first time we don't really have guys who were players in the sub packages who will move into regular roles. Normally we'd see the Star or the Money guys move over to CB or S and we'd have some real game experience, but now all six of the dime package DBs are gone. Now we have Thompson, who got two games worth of experience, and Diggs who was a starter in one game and got pulled for Wallace, and hasn't done much since. Everyone else has mop up duty for the most part.

RE the front, losing Payne is a big, big deal. We don't have the next guy in line for him as an immovable interior force. Davis, Buggs, Williams and Ray are all great, just different types of DL than Payne. Frazier was ok in relief of Payne sometimes, but got moved out of his spot more often than he should. At least with the way the injuries played out at ILB, losing Evans and SDH isn't quite as hard since Mack and Moses both got a lot of real game reps. Mack could be a one year starter then gone after the way he played after he returned.

bigjue24 · Jan 10, 2018

crimsonaudio said:
Yh, crazy talent will be back there, but we will lack experience, which is why I call it a work in progress. We'll likely see some blown coverages as they develop, but I think they won't be left hanging out there as the front seven will be very, very good. The LB corps next year is going to be ridiculous.

The Bible says love covers a multitude of sins, and in the same vein a great pass rush will cover up a multitude of secondary issues. I don't think they will be bad especially if Harrison decides to come back. They will grow as the season goes. The first three games should give them time to grow a little and then A&M will be at BDS. They will most likely transition to a little bit more of a pro style offense from the true spread they have run in years past. It will be interesting see what direction CJF takes them schematically.

RTR91 · Jan 10, 2018

gtgilbert said:
My worry with the secondary is that I think this is the first time we don't really have guys who were players in the sub packages who will move into regular roles. Normally we'd see the Star or the Money guys move over to CB or S and we'd have some real game experience, but now all six of the dime package DBs are gone. Now we have Thompson, who got two games worth of experience, and Diggs who was a starter in one game and got pulled for Wallace, and hasn't done much since. Everyone else has mop up duty for the most part.

RE the front, losing Payne is a big, big deal. We don't have the next guy in line for him as an immovable interior force. Davis, Buggs, Williams and Ray are all great, just different types of DL than Payne. Frazier was ok in relief of Payne sometimes, but got moved out of his spot more often than he should. At least with the way the injuries played out at ILB, losing Evans and SDH isn't quite as hard since Mack and Moses both got a lot of real game reps. Mack could be a one year starter then gone after the way he played after he returned.

Some talk that Phidarian Mathis was fantastic on scout team, and the staff was close to playing him late in the season because of injuries. They didn't want to play him to hopefully have the extra year with him. At 6'4, 300+, he could be the guy to replace Payne.

RollTide_HTTR · Jan 10, 2018

RTR91 said:
Some talk that Phidarian Mathis was fantastic on scout team, and the staff was close to playing him late in the season because of injuries. They didn't want to play him to hopefully have the extra year with him. At 6'4, 300+, he could be the guy to replace Payne.

Interesting, he is one of the guys I expected to play some this year. Excited to see what he and Ray can do next year.

CrimsonTheory · Jan 10, 2018

Did anybody watch/hear Minkah on "Golic and Wingo"? He admitted to missing "the play" that ended the game because he was using the bathroom.

Oh my, lol.

RTR91 · Jan 10, 2018

Bo's gone...

https://twitter.com/abc/status/951130881426706432

Bama9001 · Jan 10, 2018

RTR91 said:
Bo's gone...

https://twitter.com/abc/status/951130881426706432

Definitely agree with his decision on this. Good luck in the draft and at the next level.

crimsonaudio · Jan 10, 2018

RTR91 said:
Bo's gone...

I wish him the best of luck!

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