Question: What information is there about Kirby and the way he left, and his recruiting tactics

Look no further than the man under center for the Jawja bulldogs this season, Jake Fromm. Committed to Alabama for a while he bolted for Georgia when Kirby left. I understand this is a cutthroat business and all, but I was disappointed to learn of the way Kirby left, not sure why, but I was. I'm sure there are other examples out there as well.

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AlexanderFan said:

Look no further than the man under center for the Jawja bulldogs this season, Jake Fromm. Committed to Alabama for a while he bolted for Georgia when Kirby left. I understand this is a cutthroat business and all, but I was disappointed to learn of the way Kirby left, not sure why, but I was. I'm sure there are other examples out there as well.

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Not that I have any inside info, (and my memory is not clear on this) but didn't Kirby pretty much start recruiting all the Alabama commits that he wanted for UGa as soon as he was hired?
As well as at least a couple guys already on our roster?
And didn't he raise holy "Heck" about a guy he persuaded into transferring, when Saban wouldn't give a release, then turned around and deny releases to guys on his team who wanted to transfer to Miami?

I admit I could have those things all wrong - just shooting from the hip here.

FWIW, a buddy who follows recruiting tells me that Kirby has always been a Ruthless and even "Dirty" recruiter, but we never complained about his misbehavior because he was doing it FOR us, versus now when he's doing it TO us. I have Zero frame of reference to judge whether that statement if fair or not - I simply offer it as the opinion of One person I know.

Maurice Smith - I thought I remembered that.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/8/10/12432866/maurice-smith-alabama-release-georgia

EDIT - and here is Kirby in the ULTIMATE ACT OF HYPOCRISY - after publicly whining about Maurice Smith not getting a waiver (and Saban ultimately caved and gave it) - Smart then denied Waivers to his own players.

What a piece of work!!!

the only thing i really care about wrt kirby right now, 6 freshmen 2nd stringers were part of the offense that pantsed his defense in the 2nd half and overtime.

I read in an article that Kirby took a picture of Alabama's recruiting board before he left and showed it to prospects we were recruiting. The point was to show the prospects they were lower on our board than what Saban / Alabama led them to believe. I believe the article was by Aaron Suttles who is a respected media person.

Found the link and the most pertinent part:

"The Tuscaloosa News learned that on his way out the door, Smart took a picture of Alabama’s recruiting board, which hangs in the inner sanctum of the Alabama football building, and showed it to recruits who weren’t necessarily at the top of that board. His message was simple: Alabama doesn’t want you as much as it says it does."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/yes-kirby-smart-is-a-traitor/ar-BBI0RBO

Not surprising to me...recruiting is a cut throat game...I think most if not all of us expected him to model GA like Bama...would be crazy not to...no love lost.

This is what I had read:

http://yellowhammernews.com/opinion...cture-might-put-damper-friendship-nick-saban/

basically showed some guys they were not as high on our board as others, but then he'd tell that recruit that he argued with Saban about the ranking and thought the guys should be higher and was#1 for UGA

CrimsonForce said:

I read in an article that Kirby took a picture of Alabama's recruiting board before he left and showed it to prospects we were recruiting. The point was to show the prospects they were lower on our board than what Saban / Alabama led them to believe. I believe the article was by Aaron Suttles who is a respected media person.

Found the link and the most pertinent part:

"The Tuscaloosa News learned that on his way out the door, Smart took a picture of Alabama’s recruiting board, which hangs in the inner sanctum of the Alabama football building, and showed it to recruits who weren’t necessarily at the top of that board. His message was simple: Alabama doesn’t want you as much as it says it does."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/yes-kirby-smart-is-a-traitor/ar-BBI0RBO

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"Assuming this report is true, Kirby is an underhanded, back-stabbing hypocrite. Alabama fans have no reason to wish him anything but the worst from this point forward."

I'm in.

Bamabuzzard said:

Scarred it up like Freddy Kruger's blades through a rib cage. (Don't ask me why that analogy popped in my head. I'm actually afraid to try to answer it.) LOL!

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Maybe you should sleep on it; sweet dreams!

I am sorry, who cares? we won, I am just basking in the Glory. Lets worry about next year a little later. Nick will ALWAYS out recruit everyone else............Roll Tide!

bigjue24 said:

This has been alluded to in some other threads, specifically the interview that was posted a little while ago with Kevin Hagan. Everyone should listen to that it was great. My question is what did CKS do to burn bridges, what gentlemen's agreements did he break, and how is recruiting negatively against Bama?

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I actually slipped that thread because I was unsure of the importance now it is hard to even find because of all the posts in the past day. Tidefans has been moving at a rapid pace the past few days.

The cell phone picture of our recruit board is true. What he did with it is also true. CKS is an unethical, lying, slimy piece of garbage. I can’t wait until we can beat them again and again. I have zero respect for him or his program.

TomFromBama said:

Maurice Smith - I thought I remembered that.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/8/10/12432866/maurice-smith-alabama-release-georgia

EDIT - and here is Kirby in the ULTIMATE ACT OF HYPOCRISY - after publicly whining about Maurice Smith not getting a waiver (and Saban ultimately caved and gave it) - Smart then denied Waivers to his own players.

What a piece of work!!!

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Kirby could be a 'Butt', but he picked his time and place...
He has a little bit of the Hugh Freeze personality in him.

Bamabuzzard said:

Scarred it up like Freddy Kruger's blades through a rib cage. (Don't ask me why that analogy popped in my head. I'm actually afraid to try to answer it.) LOL!

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Good analogy...

So am I!

TomFromBama said:

"Assuming this report is true, Kirby is an underhanded, back-stabbing hypocrite. Alabama fans have no reason to wish him anything but the worst from this point forward."

I'm in.

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Finally got the information I need. Thanks a lot. Makes this win that much sweeter.