a shorter game would be nice, that is one of the appeals of mls (at least to me). i don't think mcmahon is capable of presenting anything without the sex sells angle.
i am not sure how he is expecting to actually make any money off of this.
This is the XFL, again: Controversial football league set to return in 2020
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i am not sure how he is expecting to actually make any money off of this.
Just a FYI I heard this morning that the CBA for the NFL ends in 2020, so there could be a strike and people might be starved for some football and the XFL might be the only option for pro football.
I think the XFL should do all the stuff the NFL never would. 1. Make 2 point conversions mandatory. You could probably be even more creative here and add a 3 or 4 point attempt somehow. 2. Better OT rules and no ties. 3. Get rid of some of the formation rules to allow more creativity on O. 4. And for real fun, no punting. Teams have to go for it
Vince really needs to listen to his own words and take it slow but don’t make it a direct competition to the NFL.
I think many folks who are turned off about the NFL will like it if it’s not an extension of wrestling, and for all that is holy keep Jesse Ventura away from it this time.
But I think it can be success given the right direction and with good cities.
Meh. I think the WWE during the John Cena era showed that he has kinda made that grandpa turn to “ I want my grandkids to be able to watch this”. I think there will be some risqué moments, but I doubt he goes the forced relationships with players or the exotic dancers pool party with fans in the end zone routes that he did the first time.
For the money route I think he desperately needs a big national network like ESPN, NBC, ABC, or TBS to turn a serious profit. USA and Sci Fi Channel are not big enough to carry him like they are in wrestling. It also has to do with the cities that are chosen. If he chooses the Birmingham’s of the world over the San Antonio’s then it’s already doomed to fail. Also the days of the week are important. I think Friday and Saturday are his best bets for that time of the year.
https://twitter.com/jaredlorenzen22/status/956564565084528640
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He made it clear that they're hiring people to make this happen - he said multiple times in the PC that this would likely be one of the few times you would even see him. He's a smart dude and I suspect he and others have analyzed and learned a lot from the previous go.
Nor am I - but I know for a fact there are others like me who want to see more football. It certainly sounds like this XFL will look very different from the last one, which was more sizzle than steak.
That's what I am suggesting. Anything with the name Vince McMahon on it will always being considered a niche. So play with that. Vince won't be bogged down arguing with traditionalists, so try new stuff and again don't go off the reservation with ideas.
This kind of league could probably work, but the founders are usually too cute by half and forget that fans of football want to see football. They try to spice up a game that is already just fine as it is with silly gimmicks and sideshows that they think are cool. It's a little like putting ketchup on Jello. Just put together a league with teams in cities with avid football fans who have no other real outlet during the spring, and play the damn game by the same rules. It's fine to tweak the rules by using incentives to run 2-point conversions or changing the overtime rules, but the majority of it makes the game the equivalent of goony golf. Do something truly innovative like make a FG over 55 yards worth 4 points, or change some of the penalties that are only selectively called anyway, like the linemen downfield on a pass play.
Sorry if anyone has already addressed this.....but what if this thing eventually turned out to be a true minor league type system for the NFL. And yes I know the college game right now is like the defacto minor league for the NFL.......but what if this became legit, bonafide minors. My take on it is so many guys leave the college game (too many juniors for sure in addition to the graduating seniors) who don’t make a 53 man NFL roster.....perhaps this could be an ongoing developmental type league for those guys to make $80-100k (or whatever salary structure the market can support) per year and work on their game and see if they can get ‘called up’ to the NFL. Sounds kinda crazy but thinking outside the box on the XFL. I know I’d support it if it was in BHM.
If that is the way the league was structured, it would probably succeed, instead of trying to compete with the NFL or angling for a redux of the old AFL merger almost 50 years ago. IF it concentrated on providing a landing spot for the next tier of players who can't make a 53-man squad, and don't want to settle for a practice squad or go to Canada, they could field an entertaining, competitive product. If the league decides to go the WFL or USFL route and try to entice top-tier college players and poach stars off of NFL teams to build attendance, it will be short-lived. The NFL could actually benefit from the new league if it operated in cooperation and not competition. If they try to compete, the NFL will just squash it.
It'll be a "farm" team so to speak, IMO, but like you say by taking guys cut from 53 roster it S/B an entertaining product especially in the off season format. I think that's another reason for a delayed start. He's got money, but I think he's wanting to prove it's a successful product, to attract investors. If not, another flop IMO. I hope succeeds it would be a breath of fresh air for the off season!
The pitfalls of these kind of "secondary" leagues is that they either go broke overpaying/overbidding for players in an effort to present a quality/compelling product, foolishly try to go head-to-head with the established league and lose, or they don't have a good enough product to get adequate TV exposure/revenue. It is hard to hit the sweet spot.
But this could be the right time to give it a try. We really don't know where TV is headed in terms of cord cutting and distribution methods, but exposure is bound to get easier. There is political backlash and general fan boredom with the NFL (which may or may not subside in the next couple years). You've got a lot of 20-30k seat soccer stadiums around the country that you didn't have 10 years ago that are the right size and have enough revenue-generating bells and whistles for something like this.
But this could be the right time to give it a try. We really don't know where TV is headed in terms of cord cutting and distribution methods, but exposure is bound to get easier. There is political backlash and general fan boredom with the NFL (which may or may not subside in the next couple years). You've got a lot of 20-30k seat soccer stadiums around the country that you didn't have 10 years ago that are the right size and have enough revenue-generating bells and whistles for something like this.
Baaaahahahahahahahaha - best headline of the month:
He Ate Me? Jared Lorenzen is interested in playing in Vince McMahon's new football league
He Ate Me? Jared Lorenzen is interested in playing in Vince McMahon's new football league
I clicked on that link and the first thing I saw was Lorenzen in an appropriately named Rivers Monsters uniform, I couldn't even finish the article...
I think the XFL will probably be structured around the Arena and CFL concept in that it gives players that either washed out or didn’t recieve a call from the NFL to play football. I think one of Vince’s biggest mistakes the first time was selling it as a direct competitor against the NFL. I don’t he can do that or sell it as an NFL Europe idea either. He needs to continue to sell it like he has started to and it be the true sports fans league that doesn’t allow politics or over paid players to dominate it. Basically he is selling this to the college football fanatics and those turned off by the Goodell NFL.
If the XFL will stick to the spring, I think it can work out. How many college and NFL football fans would watch the XFL in the spring? I would just because there's no other football during the spring. Last time they tried to compete with the NFL and got crushed, but if they don't do that again it could work.
Arena football was a fairly profitable league until the players decided that they needed to get paid more. The model, even with the TV $$$, didn't work with highly paid players. It collapsed under the weight of the new player contracts. Today there are only 4 teams in the league and they still get almost 10k attendees per game, so there is a market for other kinds of football. The struggle is making it profitable.
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