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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by JustNeedMe81 View Post
    Okay RTR, I'm not trying to argue with you, but I don't understand how is that they work together in term of Graduate Transfer and the current QBs on roster? Neither has announced that they were transferring? Neither has the starting job locked down? All we know is that we have a potential QB transfer that might/might not transfer to Alabama and how it can affect the roster at Alabama, but still at the same time, We are discussing the comparison of Tua and Jalen and how The job is Tua's, etc.

    I'm not trying to make it difficult here.. just trying to understand this.
    Because adding a QB to the mix leads to a discussion about the current QBs. It's pretty simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Over the years CNS has shown that he values experience, leadership and perseverance from his starters, Jalen checks all the boxes on those attributes. Is this enough to overcome the obvious QB talent differential Tua has shown, I do not know? My point was not to infer that either QB was a shoe-in for the starting spot, but rather we might be wrong to assume that simply a tremendous second half performance by Tua in the NC game wins him the starting nod.

    IDK how CNS will handle this, but I do believe that the likelihood of one of them transferring is pretty high and that is why Minshew or some other graduate experienced QB will be brought in as an insurance policy.
    My take on the Jalen/Tua question is this, and it pertains to this board more so than the straight Football board. As much as we love Jalen for the kid he is and his poise under pressure, we have heard or inferred that his play at QB did negatively impact recruiting. I don't know that there any many things more important to Coach Saban in terms of building his teams than recruiting. Big time playmakers at WR and RB are not going to want to come to a team with a QB who is a one read and run QB. We had a lot of guys make big time plays in the NC game that they simply would not have been able to make with Jalen at QB. We need Tua out there allowing guys to show their skills so other playmakers will want to come show theirs too.

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by JustNeedMe81 View Post
    Okay RTR, I'm not trying to argue with you, but I don't understand how is that they work together in term of Graduate Transfer and the current QBs on roster? Neither has announced that they were transferring? Neither has the starting job locked down? All we know is that we have a potential QB transfer that might/might not transfer to Alabama and how it can affect the roster at Alabama, but still at the same time, We are discussing the comparison of Tua and Jalen and how The job is Tua's, etc.

    I'm not trying to make it difficult here.. just trying to understand this.
    I don't see how any graduate transfer comes here without being told that it is likely that they will at least be the backup. That makes the Tua/Jalen debate very valid to this discussion IMO.

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by JustNeedMe81 View Post
    I get that.... I understand your perspective. The thing is... I don't think it really affect the depth because Saban has always wanted 4 or 5 QBs on the roster and I think Saban is trying to play it safe this year in case Tua or Hurts leave.... and Saban is planning to take 2 qbs in next year class...
    Thats just it though, as you said. The possibility of Jalen or tua leaving which is why it's hard to discuss this kid coming in without bring tua and Jalen into play. If one leaves, it's more than likely due to losing the qb battle or not being named starter,but right now we don't know if the depth issue is primarily due to a mandatory amount of desired qb numbers vs the possibility of transfer or if there could be a position change at qb....which will probably bring out fans curiosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tidefan26 View Post
    How was this ever in question? I think the world of Jalen, but it is not even close when comparing them as quarterbacks. We have tangible proof of this fact.
    There's been no official word and probably won't be. The soonest we might hear that is for the A-Day game but even then it will probably not be announced.

    However, there's something called the eyeball test that speaks louder than an announced depth chart or starting spot.

    It's rather clear to most, at least on this board. It's hard to imagine the coaches seeing it different too, but until we see Tua or Jalen take the first snap against the Cards I guess there will be a debate.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWave View Post
    My take on the Jalen/Tua question is this, and it pertains to this board more so than the straight Football board. As much as we love Jalen for the kid he is and his poise under pressure, we have heard or inferred that his play at QB did negatively impact recruiting. I don't know that there any many things more important to Coach Saban in terms of building his teams than recruiting. Big time playmakers at WR and RB are not going to want to come to a team with a QB who is a one read and run QB. We had a lot of guys make big time plays in the NC game that they simply would not have been able to make with Jalen at QB. We need Tua out there allowing guys to show their skills so other playmakers will want to come show theirs too.
    Ross kid is poster child for this.

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    We also have to be willing to absorb the turnovers that will come with Tua, and for gosh sakes don't try to coach them out of him. Coach has to understand and trust in his defense. This offense can be dynamic like we haven't seen before, but it is going to come with a bit of a price.

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    I wonder what the staff is telling this kid to get him to transfer to Bama. He can return to east carolina and be the starter, so what is it. For example, are they telling him there is a possibility he can be #2, that if he is good enough he can be #1? If they are telling him that he can be #2, then they have to be telling him that either Jalen or Tua will probably transfer? I am sure that they are NOT telling him he can be #3 or #4 as things current stand that is what he would be. Any one have a clue?

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by bodiddle View Post
    I wonder what the staff is telling this kid to get him to transfer to Bama. He can return to east carolina and be the starter, so what is it. For example, are they telling him there is a possibility he can be #2, that if he is good enough he can be #1? If they are telling him that he can be #2, then they have to be telling him that either Jalen or Tua will probably transfer? I am sure that they are NOT telling him he can be #3 or #4 as things current stand that is what he would be. Any one have a clue?
    There was more to the situation, he moved back home (which is close) to take care of family issues. I think he feels Bama is close by and gives him a chance to continue to play or be a part of a great program. I'm not really sure he expects to see a whole lot of playing time. If he has any desires to coach down the road, this could be a great opportunity as well on his resume.
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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by JTBama View Post
    There was more to the situation, he moved back home (which is close) to take care of family issues. I think he feels Bama is close by and gives him a chance to continue to play or be a part of a great program. I'm not really sure he expects to see a whole lot of playing time. If he has any desires to coach down the road, this could be a great opportunity as well on his resume.
    Maybe he cam move to slot receiver if Jalen doesn't pan out there.

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by JTBama View Post
    There was more to the situation, he moved back home (which is close) to take care of family issues. I think he feels Bama is close by and gives him a chance to continue to play or be a part of a great program. I'm not really sure he expects to see a whole lot of playing time. If he has any desires to coach down the road, this could be a great opportunity as well on his resume.
    This. The kid probably knows he's not going pro. Being at Alabama gives him exposure to a top tier program, a chance to get a few rings, and working relationships with some of the most influential coaches in the business. It's almost like a graduate assistant who is still playing. Not to mention free graduate school...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtgilbert View Post
    This. The kid probably knows he's not going pro. Being at Alabama gives him exposure to a top tier program, a chance to get a few rings, and working relationships with some of the most influential coaches in the business. It's almost like a graduate assistant who is still playing. Not to mention free graduate school...
    I think it’s simple. Having an experienced qb to back up Tua allows Jalen to change positions this spring.

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    Re: Grad Transfer Recruiting 2018

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    Ross kid is poster child for this.[/QUOTE]

    In all fairness Kelly Bryant wasnt exactly setting the world on fire with his arm this season. Probably more to him going to Clemson than what you are insinuating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UAllday View Post
    In all fairness Kelly Bryant wasnt exactly setting the world on fire with his arm this season. Probably more to him going to Clemson than what you are insinuating.
    They built a relationship with him despite the QB play and we didn't until the last month of his recruitment. Give Dabo the credit where it is due.

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