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    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/marijuana/2019/02/26/all-presidential-candidates-support-legalizing-marijuana-even-republicans/bK4sQjPIgkzm54kl0dmZoI/story.html?et_rid=647674711&s_campaign=todaysheadl ines:newsletter


    All 2020 presidential candidates now support marijuana legalization efforts — even the Republicans


    All 12 official Democratic candidates, as well as the potential Republican hopeful and former Massachusetts governor William F. Weld, told the Globe they now support full nationwide legalization, Canada-style.

    President Trump, meanwhile, has said he supports states’ rights to legalize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    From the article:

    Concerns over variable CBD quality and strength have caused problems for cannabis entrepreneurs recently, especially when the debatably legal extract is incorporated into consumer products such as food.


    There is no debate:

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2/text





    Sorry, just something that stuck out like a sore thumb in the article. Hemp is legal. That includes CBD and even THC contained within hemp.

    Really cool that they were able to synthesize CBD, though.
    I noticed that in the article, and I agree there has to be some form of standardization in regards to potency, dosage etc. Iím just not thrilled at the prospect of Big Pharma controlling it, because the cost, while very high now, might make it unaffordable for many unless insurance companies step up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by twofbyc View Post
    I noticed that in the article, and I agree there has to be some form of standardization in regards to potency, dosage etc. I’m just not thrilled at the prospect of Big Pharma controlling it, because the cost, while very high now, might make it unaffordable for many unless insurance companies step up.


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    In CA many cannot afford it. I make enough that it's a small burden to buy it, but I plan on growing it to cut down on the cost.

    A trip to the dispensary can cost anywhere from $50 to several hundred, depending on what and how much. Reliable online hemp CBD from Charlotte's web costs over $100/month. It can be found for less.

    I've had several people who were using it with good results (both hemp and cannabis) stop buying it because of cost.

    The method in the article could reduce the cost and give a reliable dose. So long as no one tries to patent the plant it's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    In CA many cannot afford it. I make enough that it's a small burden to buy it, but I plan on growing it to cut down on the cost.

    A trip to the dispensary can cost anywhere from $50 to several hundred, depending on what and how much. Reliable online hemp CBD from Charlotte's web costs over $100/month. It can be found for less.

    I've had several people who were using it with good results (both hemp and cannabis) stop buying it because of cost.

    The method in the article could reduce the cost and give a reliable dose. So long as no one tries to patent the plant it's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    In CA many cannot afford it. I make enough that it's a small burden to buy it, but I plan on growing it to cut down on the cost.

    A trip to the dispensary can cost anywhere from $50 to several hundred, depending on what and how much. Reliable online hemp CBD from Charlotte's web costs over $100/month. It can be found for less.

    I've had several people who were using it with good results (both hemp and cannabis) stop buying it because of cost.

    The method in the article could reduce the cost and give a reliable dose. So long as no one tries to patent the plant it's good.
    I heard you can grow up to 25 plants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    are you near humboldt county?
    Not close enough to drive there often



    Quote Originally Posted by twofbyc View Post
    I heard you can grow up to 25 plants.


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    6 mature or 12 immature plants locally without a special license for more.
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    of close enough to drive there often





    6 mature or 12 immature plants locally without a special license for more.
    there should be plenty of local knowledge. from what i remember from going to dead shows, humboldt grows the diggiest of the dank
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    of close enough to drive there often





    6 mature or 12 immature plants locally without a special license for more.
    Is that 6 or 12 per person or per household?
    My friend might have been talking about him and his wife. He did say there was no punishment if you grew more; if caught, LE would just pull up the excess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    there should be plenty of local knowledge. from what i remember from going to dead shows, humboldt grows the diggiest of the dank
    No Cal is where the good stuff is. I have a few I can turn to for tips.

    Quote Originally Posted by twofbyc View Post
    Is that 6 or 12 per person or per household?
    My friend might have been talking about him and his wife. He did say there was no punishment if you grew more; if caught, LE would just pull up the excess.


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    per person, at least locally. Some counties/cities allow more.
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    An update:

    It's been 3-1/2 weeks since our trip to the cannabis doctor. Getting the card was easy enough. We had to have a letter from his provider stating his conditions and medications. His PCP has been supportive of our efforts, so this was no problem. The doctor was OK and was able to answer some questions and his answers aligned with what I had already learned. I was not terribly impressed, but we got what we came for and the process was easy enough and the experience positive.

    When we got to the dispensary we pretty much knew what we were looking for so the process was efficient. We got some tablets with a 1:1 ratio of THC:CBD at about 5 mg each and some candies with about 10 mg each. The process included filling out some paperwork and presenting the papers from the doctor. Medical users typically get a discount and aren't charged tax. Over time this can make a sizeable difference and for a minor is essential for legal protection. He was able to go to the back. He seemed both weirded out by this and felt it was pretty cool, but he was not the only teenager I saw there with a parent.

    Prior to going we had spoken with the school about extending his school day and about our trip and its purpose. Their stance was that any midday dose would have to be given by me off campus. I reminded them that a CA judge had ruled in favor of a similarly situated student having it given by the school nurse. The matter is unresolved for now with no immediate need to resolve it since he leaves around midday anyway and this is unlikely to change before the end of the school year.

    We began with twice daily dosing of one tab like the CW (Charlotte's Web) CBD. We experimented with 2 tabs at once and three time a day dosing. One tab three times a day seems to be where we've settled for coming up on two weeks now. We had noticed that meltdowns tended to occur at about 3 PM or a little after so we added the third dose between mid/late morning and early afternoon.

    So what are the results so far? With this dosing (knock on wood, cross fingers, hang a horseshoe, find a 4-leaf clover, hang a dreamcatcher, and whatever else you can think of) there has not been a single meltdown. Not one. Prior to this we could expect one or two a week with a few more that were narrowly avoided or that were mini-meltdowns. The 1-2/week only included the major ones. Additionally, we've gone from slightly agitated to volatile emotionally to a happy and energetic disposition that more closely resembles his "normal" as a younger child. He is more social and better socially (though still quite awkward). He actively tries to enter conversations in public. He smiles more. He laughs more. He is less agitated and less easy to anger. He tolerates people better. He has more fun. He has taken back up drawing. He seems to be able to concentrate and focus more easily and for longer. He is trying new foods and sometimes liking them (today he ate 3/4 of a plain bacon cheeseburger from a local restaurant - miracle!). I'm almost afraid I'll jinx it, but it's like my kid is back. I almost feel like I can relax ever so slightly. Almost (something any autism parent understands).

    We still have our struggles, but this seems like a bit of a miracle and we pray the good fortune continues. It is still very early on and we understand there are no guarantees, but we've had an injection of hope.

    The next steps involve making any needed dosage tweaks and getting what is needed to grow and process our own as buying from dispensaries is quite expensive. 20 tabs is roughly $40-45. It takes at least 60/month just for him (we have more than one autistic child, the other is an adult and he is using some in lower quantities as well - not to mention mom. Overall, it is helping everyone in different ways. I abstain for professional reasons). It's easy to see this could cost a few hundred $/month. Growing will be much more easily sustainable. I've educated myself a great deal on that. I'm almost ready to get the needed supplies and get it going once I nail down a few more details. I should be able to grow year-round with a steady supply if all goes well and make it into tablets, capsules, and candies. No one here wants to smoke it, so that's the way to go. I won't get into the details of that side of things for now but at times learning has been fascinating. Maybe I'll grown some aloe vera and/or fresh veggies while I'm at it. Some fresh okra sounds good and it can't be found here.

    Back on topic, I never knew there were so many strain of cannabis or just how complex the the plant is in chemistry with each strain producing each component at different levels and then those components producing different effects together based on their percentages. CBD counteracts THC side effects like anxiety and paranoia and has a generally calming effect by itself. CBN promotes sleep. One strain's effects can be quite different from another's regardless of the general tendencies of indica's, sativa's, or hybrids. Some grow short and broad, others tall and skinny. There are about as many ways to grow it as there are people growing it. My plan is a strain that is roughly 1:1 THC:CBD in soil, indoors. There are some local laws that along with the climate make indoors more viable.

    My crew tells me that these doses don't make them feel high (not that I really care if it helps), but it has helped.

    As I've said before, this is not what I expected to be doing for my kid(s) but here we are. Of course, before my kids were born my understanding of autism was Rain Man and about 5 minutes of actual education and maybe a story on 20/20. So if that's close to the level of your understanding I ask that you refrain from making judgments about things you don't understand and that you educate yourself both academically and with some real people experience. Even then, you won't know what it's like to live it so keep that in mind. This plant is helping everyone from cancer, chronic pain, addiction, and glaucoma patients to veterans and others with depression, anxiety, and PTSD (and literally saving their lives in many cases) to children with formerly intractable seizures that now have few if any seizures with this medicine. Nonverbal autistic children whose stimming includes self-harm like headbanging and biting have stopped hurting themselves and begun talking after taking this medicine. I have some strong words for anyone who would want to take it away from anyone who needs it, but more than anything I hope you and your loved ones never have to experience any of these things in order for your mind to be changed and for you to have some compassion and understanding. I hope that should you or your loved ones ever need it that it is there for you without legal jeopardy or intrusive outside judgment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    An update:

    It's been 3-1/2 weeks since our trip to the cannabis doctor. Getting the card was easy enough. We had to have a letter from his provider stating his conditions and medications. His PCP has been supportive of our efforts, so this was no problem. The doctor was OK and was able to answer some questions and his answers aligned with what I had already learned. I was not terribly impressed, but we got what we came for and the process was easy enough and the experience positive.

    When we got to the dispensary we pretty much knew what we were looking for so the process was efficient. We got some tablets with a 1:1 ratio of THC:CBD at about 5 mg each and some candies with about 10 mg each. The process included filling out some paperwork and presenting the papers from the doctor. Medical users typically get a discount and aren't charged tax. Over time this can make a sizeable difference and for a minor is essential for legal protection. He was able to go to the back. He seemed both weirded out by this and felt it was pretty cool, but he was not the only teenager I saw there with a parent.

    Prior to going we had spoken with the school about extending his school day and about our trip and its purpose. Their stance was that any midday dose would have to be given by me off campus. I reminded them that a CA judge had ruled in favor of a similarly situated student having it given by the school nurse. The matter is unresolved for now with no immediate need to resolve it since he leaves around midday anyway and this is unlikely to change before the end of the school year.

    We began with twice daily dosing of one tab like the CW (Charlotte's Web) CBD. We experimented with 2 tabs at once and three time a day dosing. One tab three times a day seems to be where we've settled for coming up on two weeks now. We had noticed that meltdowns tended to occur at about 3 PM or a little after so we added the third dose between mid/late morning and early afternoon.

    So what are the results so far? With this dosing (knock on wood, cross fingers, hang a horseshoe, find a 4-leaf clover, hang a dreamcatcher, and whatever else you can think of) there has not been a single meltdown. Not one. Prior to this we could expect one or two a week with a few more that were narrowly avoided or that were mini-meltdowns. The 1-2/week only included the major ones. Additionally, we've gone from slightly agitated to volatile emotionally to a happy and energetic disposition that more closely resembles his "normal" as a younger child. He is more social and better socially (though still quite awkward). He actively tries to enter conversations in public. He smiles more. He laughs more. He is less agitated and less easy to anger. He tolerates people better. He has more fun. He has taken back up drawing. He seems to be able to concentrate and focus more easily and for longer. He is trying new foods and sometimes liking them (today he ate 3/4 of a plain bacon cheeseburger from a local restaurant - miracle!). I'm almost afraid I'll jinx it, but it's like my kid is back. I almost feel like I can relax ever so slightly. Almost (something any autism parent understands).

    We still have our struggles, but this seems like a bit of a miracle and we pray the good fortune continues. It is still very early on and we understand there are no guarantees, but we've had an injection of hope.

    The next steps involve making any needed dosage tweaks and getting what is needed to grow and process our own as buying from dispensaries is quite expensive. 20 tabs is roughly $40-45. It takes at least 60/month just for him (we have more than one autistic child, the other is an adult and he is using some in lower quantities as well - not to mention mom. Overall, it is helping everyone in different ways. I abstain for professional reasons). It's easy to see this could cost a few hundred $/month. Growing will be much more easily sustainable. I've educated myself a great deal on that. I'm almost ready to get the needed supplies and get it going once I nail down a few more details. I should be able to grow year-round with a steady supply if all goes well and make it into tablets, capsules, and candies. No one here wants to smoke it, so that's the way to go. I won't get into the details of that side of things for now but at times learning has been fascinating. Maybe I'll grown some aloe vera and/or fresh veggies while I'm at it. Some fresh okra sounds good and it can't be found here.

    Back on topic, I never knew there were so many strain of cannabis or just how complex the the plant is in chemistry with each strain producing each component at different levels and then those components producing different effects together based on their percentages. CBD counteracts THC side effects like anxiety and paranoia and has a generally calming effect by itself. CBN promotes sleep. One strain's effects can be quite different from another's regardless of the general tendencies of indica's, sativa's, or hybrids. Some grow short and broad, others tall and skinny. There are about as many ways to grow it as there are people growing it. My plan is a strain that is roughly 1:1 THC:CBD in soil, indoors. There are some local laws that along with the climate make indoors more viable.

    My crew tells me that these doses don't make them feel high (not that I really care if it helps), but it has helped.

    As I've said before, this is not what I expected to be doing for my kid(s) but here we are. Of course, before my kids were born my understanding of autism was Rain Man and about 5 minutes of actual education and maybe a story on 20/20. So if that's close to the level of your understanding I ask that you refrain from making judgments about things you don't understand and that you educate yourself both academically and with some real people experience. Even then, you won't know what it's like to live it so keep that in mind. This plant is helping everyone from cancer, chronic pain, addiction, and glaucoma patients to veterans and others with depression, anxiety, and PTSD (and literally saving their lives in many cases) to children with formerly intractable seizures that now have few if any seizures with this medicine. Nonverbal autistic children whose stimming includes self-harm like headbanging and biting have stopped hurting themselves and begun talking after taking this medicine. I have some strong words for anyone who would want to take it away from anyone who needs it, but more than anything I hope you and your loved ones never have to experience any of these things in order for your mind to be changed and for you to have some compassion and understanding. I hope that should you or your loved ones ever need it that it is there for you without legal jeopardy or intrusive outside judgment.
    thanks for the update nt!
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    Awesome, NT. What a blessing for your family. I’m very happy for your family and pray this medicine will continue to help them.

    And thank you so much for sharing this story. Hopefully open minded people will be moved to think about marijuana from a different perspective.

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    Stories like ours are making a difference. A new CBS poll shows 65% of Americans support legalization.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/support...ws-poll-finds/



    This is somewhere close to critical mass and I expect descheduling at the federal level within 5 years as more states, including Alabama, make it legal for at least medical uses and others move toward full legalization.

    There is a steep learning curve in using this for medicine. Not just strains, but when you harvest can have a significant effect on the chemistry and therefore the overall effects. And while there is a lot of good information out there it's also true that not all the info is good and the process is still very much trial and error.

    It's also humorous how the grow tents, super soil, and hydroponic and other equipment developed mainly for this purpose is sold with generic houseplants and fruits/veggies being pictured with the product on Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot, and other retailers.

    Thanks for the support. I really didn't want to hijack this thread, but I hope by adding our story to it the original story will be seen by more eyes and maybe others will add theirs and overall the impact will be broadened.
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