I think he makes it as QB or not at all. Don't think he has the elusiveness to play running back or the speed and moves to play WR. NFL is full of guys who looked awful their first 2 and even 3 years in college.
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Or when they played against air during the summer camps this year. From observers on site the accuracy and timing difference between Tua and Jalen was very noticeable..
just my $0.02 worth but based on what you saw in the first half of the Championship game in the first half and then the second half,
would we have needed a once in a life time play if Tua had started the game....???
would we have needed a once in a life time play if Tua had started the game....???
Exactly. Why I noted that "in the game" is the true standard of measurement. It's not even close!
Much has been speculated regarding how prepared Georgia was for Tua. Kirby said they prepared for him. To what extent we'll never know, I guess. All I know is that even with a slow start and INT, there was enough positive change to our offense to turn the game around and then once Tua got comfortable they weren't stopping us.
I believe we would have beaten UGA by a couple of TDs if Tua had played the whole game.
FWIW, again, I'm just saying that's what some believe it means. I agree with you that he probably can't play another position at Bama especially because the 4 and 5 start talent is steep. Just don't think he has a future as a QB in the NFL.
I've felt for a long time that this is Jalen's strongest suit in the competition. He rarely makes that mistake. The crown of the helmet on his chinstrap he took versus Ole Miss 2016 being an obvious exception, but I don't know any player who could have taken that hit and not dropped the ball. Jalen popped up, dusted himself off, and went back to winning the game. Tough. I've always admired Jalen for that and I think Coach Saban does as well.
No one, with half a brain, would dispute his toughness.
But do you think him not throwing to wide open receivers or running out of bounds on third downs to stall drives was not making a "mistake?"
The article is a typical desperate summertime "will fall camp please start?" article. Nets have nothing to do with game accuracy. I'm sure could have beaten either of these kids throwing into a net, for sheer arm strength, not that it helped that much...
yep. someone mentioned LB..a physical specimen like Jerrell Harris couldnt make it in the NFL but some think Jalen could try. no chance. every college player doesnt play in the NFL.. Jalen will be another and there is nothing wrong with that.
I was really critical of Coker but he shut me up and he played very well starting with the UGA game, his toughness is what stood out to me.
That is Jalen's weak suit.
But "that" mistake, the one I was referring to, was making the turnover that will lose the game. Jalen does not make that mistake.
Look, I'm not arguing that Jalen should start over Tua. What I said all last year was that Coach Saban values a QB that will not kill the team with a stupid turnover over one who may win the game by taking risks. I surmised (and this is completely conjecture on my part), that Tua was a bit of a gunslinger in practice (think about the play against UGA when everybody knew the play was a run, but Tua thought it was a pass) and Jalen was the steady one who was not necessarily going to win the game through his passing, but at least would not lose the game by being careless with the ball.
We all saw how that turned out against really good defenses: the D would crowd the line with seven, eight or nine in the box, shut down the running game and dare Bama to win by throwing the ball. Jalen barely got that done against Miss State, could not get that done against the Barn (and I hate losing to those slack-jawed bugger-eating morons as much as anybody), did not have to against Clemson, but against UGA, was obviously not going to get it done.
If Tua can show in practice he won't be careless with the ball, then he'll start I'd wager. The ceiling is obviously higher with Tua than Jalen, as much as I respect Jalen's toughness and speed as a runner, and unflappable calm as a leader.
Good post. Unfortunately, because Jalen threw so few INTs many have assumed any INTs will be too many for Tua. But, a "healthy" TD to INT rate for leading passers in the NFL is around 4 or 3 to 1. We'll be OK if Tua throws a few (even an occasional pick 6) because he'll also account for another 2 or 3 TDs too.
Very true.
Heck, Tua threw a [freshman] pick in the 2nd half of the national championship, and they still won.
If Tua throws a dumb pick in the 4th quarter and Bama's up by 27, Coach Saban will be mad for a minute, but he'll get over it.
Deshaun Watson was one of the best College QBs in recent memory and even he threw like 13-15 INTs a season but would make up for it by throwing 35-40 TDs. Only thing I would ask though is to not make any mistakes that would give the opposing team good field position.
Not sure if he could pull it off, but I believe his best chance at NFL would be at strong safety. I think his athleticism matches up best with that position.
One could argue that a stalled drive or a three and out that was the result of a pass NOT thrown (i.e. and could have been avoided by throwing the ball instead of holding onto it) is effectively a turnover with better field position.
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I think Jalen wants to live and die at the QB position, if he doesn't make it, he'll probably go the Jeremy Johnson route and coach High School Football.
Jalen Hurts makes far more mistakes than does #13. I could list them all, but it's been noted over and over already.
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