Bazza said:

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Only source I can find is Media Take Out, which on the reliability scale is close to the bottom.

What do people want from police these days, seriously? This is getting ridiculous how the police are blamed for everything. WSFA showed a clip this morning of an employee saying the police should have prevented this from happening. How?

This person did not break any laws until she walk into YouTube and opened fire so, how are the police suppose to prevent that. You can't just arrest people because a family member says they are upset and might do something. What would you charge them with? Plus, they spoke to her and didn't notice anything suspicious, they cant read minds. I seriously want to know what all these people complaining about the police really want? Do we really want police to start arresting people because someone thinks they might do something bad?

CrimsonNagus said:

What do people want from police these days, seriously? This is getting ridiculous how the police are blamed for everything. WSFA showed a clip this morning of an employee saying the police should have prevented this from happening. How?

This person did not break any laws until she walk into YouTube and opened fire so, how are the police suppose to prevent that. You can't just arrest people because a family member says they are upset and might do something. What would you charge them with? Plus, the spoke to her and did notice anything suspicious, they cant read minds. I seriously want to know what all these people complaining about the police really want? Do we really want police to start arresting people because someone thinks they might do something bad?

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Where is Tom Cruise when you need him?

Bazza said:

Thanks for your post and I agree with some of what you're saying.

It's all about optics - especially in this day and age of the Internet where stuff flies out of people's heads and into cyber space without proper context or semblance to practicality.

For what it's worth, I think cops have a very tough job and I wouldn't want to do it. Most cops are just trying to do their job. And I also believe that they are to some degree STUCK with many times a bureaucratic system that works against them - and that's due to (yes you got it) our crappy dirty crooked political system.

And the media does not help. At all.

All that being said, it's too bad cops don't police themselves as much as they could. IMHO, they have a long standing tradition of standing behind each other - and turning a blind eye - just to avoid being singled out as a rat and "non-team player".

But I wonder in this case how much they were influenced by the fact that she was a woman - and I also wonder if they were overly fixated on her ta ta's.....and just wanted to be "nice" to her. If it was a male - would they have conducted a search of the vehicle?

I don't know.

But maybe this info coming out will help in future incidents.....

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I think a part of this is how the police have turned a blind eye to some bad cops, but I also know that not all cops are bad cops. The general public (or the media narrative even) can't fathom that in a lot of social situations, it isn't necessarily all of one side or the other side; it can be some combination of all sides. I also agree with the sentiment that it's become a pile-on effect. Frankly, these people who are basically calling for arrests before a crime is committed do not see the long-term ramifications of such thinking and potential policy.

Bazza said:

Police talked with YouTube shooter hours before attack -- and say they didn't notice anything disturbing

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Nothing at all?

Aledinho said:

Nothing at all?

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I'd like to have seen her as a guest on Sprockets.

CaliforniaTide said:

I think a part of this is how the police have turned a blind eye to some bad cops, but I also know that not all cops are bad cops. The general public (or the media narrative even) can't fathom that in a lot of social situations, it isn't necessarily all of one side or the other side; it can be some combination of all sides. I also agree with the sentiment that it's become a pile-on effect. Frankly, these people who are basically calling for arrests before a crime is committed do not see the long-term ramifications of such thinking and potential policy.

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That's because the only thing that matters to a lot of people - black or white - is the color of who did what. If a white cop shoots an "unarmed black man," that's all the media wants to know and then fire out the spin. Blacks hear it and over-react and whites hear the over-reaction and over-react.

The forensic evidence supported every single thing the cop who shot Michael "Hands NOT Up" Brown said. In other cases, it has contradicted what the cop said. And in still others, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, towards one side or the other.

Police DO turn a blind eye to cops and it's wrong. However...

Do ANY of you think doctors don't do the same thing??????? Every doctor knows he (or she.....we need a generic pronoun for this) is human and makes mistakes. Doctors kill more people with mistakes every single year than cops do, but you don't get the drama of violence and the headlines because it's a whole lot easier to control what narrative gets out.

I'm in no way knocking doctors, I work with many and there's ultimately a trust thing there.



I decided long ago - on day one - that I would be forthcoming in every instance regardless of consequence. I could lie and get away with it easier than most because I have a good enough memory to pull it off, but I also have to live with myself. I have called patients personally when a screw-up happened (folks, you handle multiple hundreds of samples plus add ons daily, it's going to happen occasionally) to fix it, and in EVERY case I've told them the truth when they asked what happened.

(In one instance, we had two patients with the exact same thyroid result that were drawn the same day, one right after the other, mailed to the hospital for performance in bags next to each other, and then run on the instrument in slots right next to each other (our report showed the analyzer info. In that case, I was SURE we had not messed up, but what do you do? I called both in on separate days, we put the results in delay status, and we ran the tests again. Btw - both patients AGAIN had the exact same result).

One thing I find is that patients take it a whole lot better (and are much less likely to sue) if you are forthcoming and honest about what happened. Back when I drew blood, I was the guy they sent in to break bad news because I (so they say) have a good rapport with the patients. That's because I don't Barbara Streisand them - I tell them the truth....we screwed up, the outsource lab screwed up, whatever and what exactly it was. 99% of folks have had no problem with this.


Of course, I realize something else, too: the situations have similarities but also have differences. Most notable being mine is never on camera (by law).

Bazza said:

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Yeah..... lol


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