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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Good to hear and I hope he gets to where he's going......

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    If he truly was diagnosed as bi-polar and has gotten help. I can definitely believe his "turn around" is real.
    I think so, too. I never could stand Manziel. But, everything I've seen and heard out of him recently seems genuine and like he finally gets that ALL of his past problems come from within himself. Some of it probably out of his control (Bi-polar) and some of it within his control (bad decisions, arrogance and narcissism). I hope he is able to maintain the new-found mental health he seems to have found and can be stable and successful in his life. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm pulling for him on a personal level.
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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    Wait, so you are telling me that a guy known only for running around for 2 minutes and then throwing it up for grabs, did not know X's & O's? I am shocked.
    You and me both. I always thought the play where he ran into his own guy, fumbled the ball into the air, caught it, and then found a wide open receiver was just how Sumlin drew it up.

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    I'm glad he is taking ownership of his past troubles. A lot of people his age are never going to take ownership for their decisions and always blame it on someone else.

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    If he really is bi-poler then I feel for him. A lot of people I know use bi-poler as an excuse for their behavior. My wife has an aunt who gets away with anything because "she is bi-poler." I think she is just mean and selfish because I have never seen the other pole. You know, the opposite of mean and selfish.
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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Not the same thing exactly, but I see him similarly as Ryan Leaf. They had different issues, but both at least now can raise their hands and admit their faults, which is at least a step toward making things better. Glad to hear this, and I will try to not think as negatively of Johnny Football as I did.

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    I can respect a guy that owns his decisions.
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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    I don't like what I know about Manziel, even if it was fueled by bi-polar issues. It is possible to have mental problems and still be a good human being. The question that I have - what kind of person will Manziel prove to be if/when he has success again in his life?

    My family has had to deal with several types of mental disorders. They are real, and they destroy lives. But this is about more than his diagnosis. The real question - who does he want to be, and what is he willing to do to become that person?

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    I don't like what I know about Manziel, even if it was fueled by bi-polar issues. It is possible to have mental problems and still be a good human being. The question that I have - what kind of person will Manziel prove to be if/when he has success again in his life?

    My family has had to deal with several types of mental disorders. They are real, and they destroy lives. But this is about more than his diagnosis. The real question - who does he want to be, and what is he willing to do to become that person?
    I have doubts as well. I have one relative who they say is bi-polar and they are hard to get along with. I have another who they say is bi-polar and he is hard to get along with. The first I feel for, the second I don't. The second one is obnoxious and knows everything about everything. The last time I tried to help him he just grinned and shot me a bird. This is how I see Mr. Football. I would bet a lot of money that when people tried to talk some sense into Mr Football he grinned and told them to MYOB.
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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Well I mean scrambling around throwing it up for grabs to a Mike Evans type is the norm for many these days.

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaJama17 View Post
    Well I mean scrambling around throwing it up for grabs to a Mike Evans type is the norm for many these days.
    There are two ways to go, it seems. Work hard and apply yourself or slide by and party. When I played tournament chess we called it "getting out of book" when we played a high ranked player. They know the book moves down to the middle game, at least. We didn't, so we would make a "no move" move (not a blunder, but not one of the best moves) early in the game just to confuse them because they were expecting one of the normal book moves. They would have to take some time to figure out the best move for them instead of making the memorized move.

    This thinking instead of automatic moving took time off their clock for a few moves until the game got back to a more bookish pattern. I won a couple of games and drew several because the opponent was in time trouble from all the thinking while his clock was ticking. We played 40 moves an hour and played four rounds a day, so staying out of time trouble was a big deal.

    This is the HUNH and wishbone today, IMO. Get those with the best players and coaches with the best work ethic out of book. Can we say "upset."
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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    I don't like what I know about Manziel, even if it was fueled by bi-polar issues. It is possible to have mental problems and still be a good human being. The question that I have - what kind of person will Manziel prove to be if/when he has success again in his life?
    IDK. I know people who are actually bi-polar, and that helps make sense of things i.e. the impulsive behaviors.

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    Re: Johnny Manziel- "I didn't really know the X's & O's of football."

    I'd be curious to see if he was diagnosed with Bipolar 1 or 2. I'd bet on 2 which is less severe though still incredibly hard to live with.

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