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    The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Schiano suggested the scoring team, rather than attempt an onside kick, take over the ball on its 30 on a fourth-and-15 play. The team can either go for it -- trying to retain the ball -- or punt. Statistics show that injuries on punts aren't as bad for as frequent as on kickoffs.

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    Since punts are much safer than kickoffs why not punt instead of kicking off. Punt from your own 40, or from the 50. That way a return or a fumble is still possible.

    Also (hint, hint) the NCAA could reverse some of its decisions favoring the O. and cut down on kickoffs by cutting down on the 45-40 and 55-60 scoring matches. I miss the days when a 21 point lead really meant something. LESS scoring equals LESS KOs.
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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    I think converting a 4th and 10 would be easier to do than an onside kick.


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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    I think converting a 4th and 10 would be easier to do than an onside kick.


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    If they do this, it needs to be at least 4th and 25.

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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    How about a free kick/kickoff from the 20, Or a standard punt (no fakes and no blocks) from the 50.
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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    It isn't kickoffs per se that are inherently dangerous (they don't have this discussion in rugby, for instance), but rather the tackling on kickoffs. I'll admit I don't know how to solve it, but modifying the definition of a legal tackle in order to retain the kickoff would be better than these Schiano-esque proposals to eliminate kickoffs altogether.

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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood Forrest View Post
    Schiano suggested the scoring team, rather than attempt an onside kick, take over the ball on its 30 on a fourth-and-15 play. The team can either go for it -- trying to retain the ball -- or punt. Statistics show that injuries on punts aren't as bad for as frequent as on kickoffs.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...lege-football/

    Since punts are much safer than kickoffs why not punt instead of kicking off. Punt from your own 40, or from the 50. That way a return or a fumble is still possible.

    Also (hint, hint) the NCAA could reverse some of its decisions favoring the O. and cut down on kickoffs by cutting down on the 45-40 and 55-60 scoring matches. I miss the days when a 21 point lead really meant something. LESS scoring equals LESS KOs.
    That's an excellent point. The constant rule changes to favor the offenses have played a big part in creating so many kickoffs. Better officiating could also help balance the field between offense and defense. I'm always amazed at the things wide receivers get away with that would be called on the defensive back every time.

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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    How about a free kick/kickoff from the 20, Or a standard punt (no fakes and no blocks) from the 50.
    I was thinking a fake punt from the 50 would be about like the onside kick. At least the threat of a fake punt would keep linemen honest. Without that it might become linemen dropping back and the punting team rushing full bore -- just like the KO.
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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Saban's suggestion to kick from the 40 seems reasonable. It would result in most kicks being touchbacks, but still offer the possibility for an onside kick.

    Rules to make injuries less likely is important not only for the player's safety, which is obviously the most important factor, but to preclude a push by a lot of people to eventually end tackle football as we know it.
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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    This thread could also be titled the beginning of the end of college football . . .

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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by drwho View Post
    This thread could also be titled the beginning of the end of college football . . .
    It will more likely be concussion after effects which end football...
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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    How about punt the ball, no fakes, but the ball is live once it crosses the line of scrimmage. Still have fair catch, but the receiving team can't just let it hit the ground.
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    Re: The beginning of the end of kickoffs.

    Without kickoffs we don’t beat Clemson in 2015
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